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To: Badeye
Ohio is a swing state with about 35 percent Conservatives 35 percent liberals and 30 percent moderates.

There is no way a conservative or a liberal can win with out also winning slightly more than half the Moderates.

Liberals in Ohio, tend to run as centrists. They talk the moderate language and when the do, they win.

I posted in 2006 that all the Conservatives gained by trashing TAFT was the election of TED STRICKLAND as Governor. When moderates hear Republicans trashing Republicans they reason it is time to throw the bums out. So they elected a lot of Democrats.

Had the Conervatives ignored TAFT and just promoted Blackwell they might have one. As it was only conservatives voted for Blackwell and Strickland won an easy race. But it is doubltful that Blackwell could have won the race. He presented himself as a real conservative, and that cost him tons of moderate voters.

Conservatives are pretty stupid. Look what they did when conservatives in Penn tried to take Senator Spector down. They answered people who said a conservative like Tooney could not win, by saying that Senator Rick Santorum was a conservative and he had won. At that time I posted that conservatives had just destroyed Santorum. Letting the voters know that Santorum was a real conservative would not defeat Spector, it would defeat Santorum.. and it did.

In swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania Rinos have a much better chance of getting elected than either a conservative or liberal.

At anyone time there are about 35 Conservative Senators and 35 Liberal Senators. The remaining 30 are moderates... they are some combination of RINOS and DINOS. If the Republicans elect a majority of RINOS in the swing states they control the senate. If in those same swing states the Democrats get a majority of DINOS elected,then they control the Senate.

Those on the right that can't figure out that swing states sometimes fo for Republicans and sometimes go for Democrats can't understand why Conservative candidates rarely if ever win. Moderates control who gets elected.

Swing voters vote on just two issues. Which candidate do they like, and if elected what will he do for them. Preaching ideology is just stupid. It never convinces the voters needed to win.

If the Republican party tries to go right wing in OHIO... it will end up never get more than 35 percent of the votes. It takes a RINO to win Ohio.

Their is chaos in Ohio because the Right Wing turned on the RINOS. And the party is split and the must have moderate voters have turned to a united Democratic Party

Conservatives must have flunked math..they think 35 percent of the voters can cast 50 PLUS percent of the vote.


37 posted on 01/24/2009 8:09:04 AM PST by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator

Your lack of understanding what took place in the Ohio GOP is simply staggering.


39 posted on 01/26/2009 6:02:53 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Common Tator

Actually I think it takes a RINO to loose Ohio.
Looking at the history of this state - we are a blend of New Englanders ( Cleveland + Marietta) , Kentuckians ( Cincinnati and Dayton), and Pennsylvanians (Middle, NW and Western Farm counties) . Hopefully the Kentuckians can get the Pennsylvanias to support them by reminding them where the Clevelanders came from. After all New Englanders drive everyone crazy. Right?
Hope you are feeling better Common Tator.


41 posted on 01/27/2009 9:11:17 PM PST by Martins kid
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