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U.K. Pound Serves as Omen for Dollar
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 2009-01-22

Posted on 01/22/2009 6:48:11 AM PST by rabscuttle385

BY JOANNA SLATER

As the British pound continues to sink, its travails are a cautionary tale for the U.S. dollar.

The U.S. and the U.K. face very similar predicaments, from a deepening recession to a damaged financial system. Both are orchestrating massive bank bailouts and attempting to assist struggling homeowners. Both are ramping up government spending even as they rely on financing from overseas investors. And both countries have central banks that have slashed interest rates and opened the door to unconventional ways of stimulating the economy.

Yet their currencies have headed in opposite directions. On Wednesday, the British pound tumbled to a 23-year low against the dollar, briefly buying just $1.362, down from over $2 only six months ago. The pound also hit a new all-time low versus the Japanese yen. It got a minor boost in late afternoon trading, following a report that finance ministers from major industrialized nations will discuss the currency's weakness when they meet next month.

By contrast, the dollar managed to strengthen against a host of currencies as the financial crisis intensified last fall. It has also surged ahead in recent days, particularly versus the pound and the euro.

Unlike the pound, the dollar is being buttressed by its unique status as the world's reserve currency and the vehicle for transactions in U.S. financial markets, including Treasury bonds. That means investors often seek out the dollar as fears rise, sometimes in spite of their concerns about the U.S. economy.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: dollar; financialcrisis; panicof2009; pound
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1 posted on 01/22/2009 6:48:12 AM PST by rabscuttle385
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2 posted on 01/22/2009 6:48:48 AM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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3 posted on 01/22/2009 6:49:11 AM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385
It also will affect the Euro, since European banks are FAR more leveraged than any American bank. I predicted that way back in October that we could see a massive inflow of liquidity into the US market because of unprecedented failures of European banks.
4 posted on 01/22/2009 6:51:29 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: RayChuang88

The problem is, the American banking system is failing too evidenced by the market sentiment Tuesday.


5 posted on 01/22/2009 6:55:54 AM PST by OB1kNOb (I for one do not welcome our new Atlas Shrugged Overlord Administration.)
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To: OB1kNOb

And what sentiment was evidenced on Wednesday?


6 posted on 01/22/2009 7:06:18 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: rabscuttle385

The two currencies are not headed in opposite directions, both are headed DOWN in specific value. The difference is in velocity, as one is very nearly accelerated to terminal velocity in its drop into free fall, and the other is behind it but gaining speed.

America, and the entire world, are both SO screwed.


7 posted on 01/22/2009 7:07:10 AM PST by alloysteel (The nascent obama regime - the dawn of a new error, compounding all the previous ones.)
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To: riverdawg

Suckers catching falling knives.


8 posted on 01/22/2009 7:10:45 AM PST by OB1kNOb (I for one do not welcome our new Atlas Shrugged Overlord Administration.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Until August, the pound was tremendously overvalued relative to the dollar. We were in Scotland in July, and nontraded goods like restaurant meals, hotel rooms, and museum visits were twice the cost of the equivalent items in the U.S. Even accounting for the VAT, etc. the cost differences were too wide. The pound has come back down to where it should be relative to the dollar (and may have even overshot a bit).
9 posted on 01/22/2009 7:12:13 AM PST by riverdawg
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“The U.S. and the U.K. face very similar predicaments,”

Yes, they take their citizens money and gives it to corrupt governments around the world.

Both are expected to fund everyone else.

The old 80-20 rule.


10 posted on 01/22/2009 7:14:46 AM PST by edcoil (Liberals are the evil we must fight and get rid of.)
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To: rabscuttle385; RayChuang88; OB1kNOb; riverdawg; alloysteel
...both are headed DOWN in specific value. The difference is in velocity, as one is very nearly accelerated to terminal velocity in its drop into free fall, and the other is behind it but gaining speed.

Well, but even if all economies are toast, people will still have to pick -one- fiat instrument to trade in. And between the pound and the dollar, people are picking the dollar right now.

Size matters.

11 posted on 01/22/2009 7:16:56 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: rabscuttle385
Just out of curiosity, as it's been 30+ years since I've had the money to mess with currencies, how is the long term outlook for the Swiss Franc?

Nam Vet

12 posted on 01/22/2009 7:24:17 AM PST by Nam Vet (This space for rent............Hard currency only)
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To: alloysteel

“both are headed DOWN in specific value. The difference is in velocity”

Makes sense. Here’s are slightly different analogy that I think also fits: Let’s say there are two sinking lifeboats, but one is sinking much faster than the other. It is human nature that the sufferers will leave the worst lifeboat, if they can, to join the less-damaged one. Here’s hoping that the last remaining lifeboat can be patched in time.


13 posted on 01/22/2009 7:32:29 AM PST by Texan Tory
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To: sam_paine

“even if all economies are toast, people will still have to pick -one- fiat instrument to trade in. And between the pound and the dollar, people are picking the dollar right now”

Another good idea in this thread. I have long thought that the dollar has been artificially propped up to some extent by the fact that it is the trading currency of choice, so that the United States has been getting a bit of a free ride compared to what would otherwise happen if the dollar were not the de facto world currency.


14 posted on 01/22/2009 7:40:27 AM PST by Texan Tory
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United States has been getting a bit of a free ride

Columbia has had the luck of the draw since continental drift!

We owned the 20th century because panzers couldn't roll through Virginia, and we got a head start on the rest of the world.

Just like Texas got more luck with seaports, cotton fields, oil deposits, etc etc etc.

Eventually, the lead narrows when we stumble, but that was a huge head start.

15 posted on 01/22/2009 7:50:18 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: rabscuttle385
I read an editprial in an English paper yesterday that went something like this:

The Government and the people have to face up to the fact that the British have borrowed too much, spent too much, saved too little, and produce too little of what the rest of the world wants to buy.

I'm afraid that you could substitute "American" for "British," without changing the truth of the statement.

I'm certain that our new Administration has zero interst in reducing borrowing, reducing spending or increasing production by private industry.

16 posted on 01/22/2009 7:56:12 AM PST by Pilsner
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The thing is nobody in Europe wants to admit they are sitting on a much bigger financial time bomb than here in the USA. Remember what said: European banks are far more leveraged than any US bank. As such, if any major European bank starts to fail they will take down a lot of other banks with it in very short order, and in the "flight to quality" the money will go to only one place: the United States of America.
17 posted on 01/22/2009 7:56:44 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: OB1kNOb

That’s a great analogy. I love the imagery.


18 posted on 01/22/2009 7:58:00 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: sam_paine
We owned the 20th century because panzers couldn't roll through Virginia, and we got a head start on the rest of the world.

Very astute observation.

We may very well own the 21st century because we have a permanent orbiting space station, and launch objects into space with such boring regularity that it doesn't make the news anymore -- while many of our so-called "competitors" are still peeing in their drinking water.

19 posted on 01/22/2009 7:58:24 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: OB1kNOb
Trying to explain day-to-day fluctuations in the stock market is like trying to explain the path taken by a wandering drunk. Of course, that doesn't stop financial pundits from trying to do it.
20 posted on 01/22/2009 8:20:05 AM PST by riverdawg
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