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The original BSG really wasn't very good. I understand the "re-imagined" version is vastly superior. I wouldn't know. I've never seen it. When they decided to be politically correct and "re-imagine" Starbuck and Boomer into women, I immediately wrote them off.
1 posted on 01/20/2009 8:30:15 AM PST by EveningStar
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120 posted on 01/20/2009 10:27:27 AM PST by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: EveningStar

Many of you are looking at the original BSG with 2009 eyes not 1978 eyes.

For its day TOBSG was top of the line.

It was the most expensive pilot ever produced to that time. The series was the most expensive ever done to that time. (1 million + per espisode.

When it was cancelled it was still winning its Sunday night time slot. Supposedly it was cancelled to give Mork and Mindy its coveted time slot. M&M never got as good a ratings as TOBSG.

TOBSG really took nothing from Star Wars, more Star Trek. Glen Larson had been pitching the concept(originally called Adama’s Ark) since 1968.

Star Wars only helped finally get it on the air.

Much of the writing was excellent. The ‘Hand of God’ episode was great!

Does it look kind of hokey today? Certainly.

But so does the original Star Wars (Try to find a copy of the original release, not the ones after Lucas got to redo it twice. (Han shot first!)

Did they reuse a lot of shots over and over? Yes, due to cheapening budgets from the studio and network.

I certainly agree with another poster that if they wanted to do the new series the way they did, they should have kept the basic story and done it with a different name, characters, etc. and not tried to ride the coattails of the original, and then change everything.


128 posted on 01/20/2009 11:07:41 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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Suck it Dirk. The original BG sucked. The latest incarnation is THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION.


145 posted on 01/20/2009 12:08:54 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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The original was a take off on Star Wars and the mania it produced. It was a not too serious show, not unlike other programs of the 70s. It was a product of its time.

The new Battlestar is also a product of its time and I personally find it too dark and depressing to enjoy it. Some aspects of the new show are interesting twists on the original, the characters certainly have greater depth and the program has more drama, but it's not enough to make me want to watch it. I tried. I know that others love the show, but I'm an easy target for scifi and they failed to hit me. It's dead, Jim.

149 posted on 01/20/2009 12:19:45 PM PST by GBA
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I just don’t see the political correctness. I thought that when I first heard the news, and I really ralphed when I heard the Cyclons look like humans. But I gave it a chance and it came out remarkably well. And the re-imaged Starbuck is definitely a troubled character. And it goes into why she has the tough-guy thing going on. The original Starbuck was a cardboard cutout caricature of a man.

Give the pilot miniseries a chance. They do a good job of paying respect to the old show, too.


156 posted on 01/20/2009 1:08:40 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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Having seen a lot of both versions I say ole Dirk is spot on. The new BSG has the dreariness of “1984” without the imagination.


166 posted on 01/20/2009 1:46:13 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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I know a lot of folks on here really have liked BSG, but frankly, I have said from the beginning that it is a terrible series with no uplifting redeeming value. All it has been is a daytime soap opera in a sci fi skin.


176 posted on 01/20/2009 3:01:44 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (He will never be my president)
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To: EveningStar
"When they decided to be politically correct and "re-imagine" Starbuck and Boomer into women, I immediately wrote them off."

Same here. Never watched an episode for the same reason. I figured they'd just turn it into a lame 90210 in space with great special effects.

Scanning through this thread it looks like I was right.

178 posted on 01/20/2009 3:28:17 PM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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192 posted on 01/20/2009 5:07:58 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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Fans of the new BSG will like this:

The original Starbuck tells the new show to frak off

193 posted on 01/20/2009 5:25:18 PM PST by EveningStar (Socialism in the USA began in 1933. In 2009 it kicked into warp drive.)
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To: EveningStar

bump for a later read


203 posted on 01/21/2009 4:23:42 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter. Before the late bell. When I close the door.)
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To: EveningStar
I understand the "re-imagined" version is vastly superior.

Having watched both, the new version is technically better but is a complete bend-over to the PC crowd. There is no coherent plot direction at the present time and any show that will deny its own tradition in the interests of political correctness is not worth taking seriously.

207 posted on 01/21/2009 5:48:47 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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By the way, this article is MASTERFUL.


208 posted on 01/21/2009 5:54:31 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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The original BSG really wasn't very good.

Correct. It was intended to be very corny/cheeky. I understand the "re-imagined" version is vastly superior.

It is far, far worse. While it doesn't have the corny dialog and cheesy special effects, every one of its characters, even the noble leader Adama is so deeply conflicted it just winds up being even cornier on a much deeper level.

People with the kinds of dysfunctions of every single character usually wind up homeless and talking to themselves, not shepherding the remnant of humanity across the galaxy while constantly in danger of extermination.

They only survive because the Cylons are also so hopelessly dysfunctional your average high school could devise a strategy to wipe them out.

The whole thing represents the worldview of your average burned out, alcoholic, drug addicted, child molesting, five time divorced hollywood director.

209 posted on 01/21/2009 6:06:03 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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“The original BSG really wasn’t very good.”

The original BSG was a good idea, ruined of course by Hollywood which turned it into a children’s show.

The re-imagined version is better. Grittier, slightly more believable once you invoke the willing suspension of disbelief. The women are hot. It’ll do for tv.


212 posted on 01/21/2009 7:26:24 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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the neve version is VASTLY inferior. You end up wishing EVERYONE would lose and die.

The special effects are light years superior but that is not enough to salvate the pro-homo left wing union thug socialist nutjob writing.


219 posted on 01/21/2009 9:52:39 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: EveningStar

Wrong.
Production values are better. Acting is probably better. But “old” BSG was about people being their best under bad circumstances. GINO (Galactica In Name Only) is about people being their worst. The story line sucks. And both sides are too stupid to live.


220 posted on 01/21/2009 9:53:20 AM PST by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: EveningStar
Damn! Great read and spot on!

This part stuck out:

“Re-imagining”, they call it. “Un-imagining” is more accurate. To take what once was and twist it into what never was intended. So that a television show based on hope, spiritual faith and family is un-imagined and regurgitated as a show of despair, sexual violence and family dysfunction. To better reflect the times of ambiguous morality in which we live, one would assume. A show in which the aliens (Cylons) are justified in their desire to destroy human civilization, one would assume. Indeed, let us not say who the good guys are and who the bad are. That is being “judgmental,” taking sides, and that kind of (simplistic) thinking went out with Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan and Kathryn Hepburn and John Wayne and, well, the original “Battlestar Galactica.”

At this point, I wanted John Hodiak to come out and call a Nazi a Nazi.

226 posted on 01/21/2009 11:06:15 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter. Before the late bell. When I close the door.)
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My one problem with Dirk is why he didn't appear in Richard Hatch's Battlestar Galactica trailer that he was shopping around. Hatch did leave it open for Starbuck to appear in it at some point.

A pity that that new Battlestar Galactica will never be made now.

227 posted on 01/21/2009 11:08:04 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter. Before the late bell. When I close the door.)
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You’ve written off a great show then.

BSG is not the BSG of 1978, not even close, no doubt. However it is a very good show, adult oriented definately, not for kids, but a great show.


243 posted on 01/21/2009 2:24:02 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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