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'Anne, if you drink this you will die': Why we stood by and allowed our mother to commit suicide
UK Daily Mail ^ | 1/18/09 | Andrea Thompson

Posted on 01/18/2009 9:16:06 AM PST by wagglebee

Sophie Pandit breaks into a smile as she recalls a nervous meeting with Julie Walters last summer. The actress plays Sophie’s mother in a new film and they met after Sophie was invited on set during rehearsals. ‘Don’t worry, I won’t do your mum with a Brummie accent,’ Julie had said mischievously, by way of an ice-breaker.

Sophie knew her mother would have approved. Throughout her life, Anne Turner was known for unleashing her wicked sense of humour to diffuse tension in difficult situations. This never stopped, even in the hours before her death.

Last summer, Sophie, 44, herself an actress, her brother Edward, 42, and sister Jessica, 40, were approached by the BBC, who wanted to make a film about their mother’s extraordinary final years of life.

Three years ago next Saturday, Anne Turner, a 66-year-old retired doctor from Bath, made the journey to the Dignitas assisted suicide clinic in Zurich to take her own life after being diagnosed with progressive supranuclear palsy – a rare, incurable degenerative condition similar to Parkinson’s that gradually destroys nerve cells in the parts of the brain controlling eye movements, breathing and muscle co-ordination, eventually leading to paralysis, making the sufferer totally reliant on others.

‘This was a future Mum refused to accept and on the day she was diagnosed, she told me of her intention to commit suicide,’ says Sophie.

‘We were horrified and deeply upset but as a doctor, Mum was under no illusions about the outcome of her illness. She was a fiercely independent woman and she could not face losing that independence or being physically reliant on others.’

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: assistedsuicide; euthanasia; moralabsolutes; prolife; suicide
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To: wagglebee
I believe this to be 100% morally WRONG.

That wasn't my entire point. Perhaps the woman thought she was being unselfish by saving her children from the burden of caring for her, rather than selfishly trying to avoid the pain of her illness?

101 posted on 01/18/2009 3:14:07 PM PST by Amelia
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To: Amelia

It doesn’t matter, it’s still WRONG.


102 posted on 01/18/2009 3:15:17 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: cajungirl

If you are asking me do I think that assisted suicide should be illegal, the answer is : Yes, I do.


103 posted on 01/18/2009 4:02:41 PM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private First Class - 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC)
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To: wagglebee
Dude, you're preaching to the choir and you know it. Not only that, the founders knew it, as has anyone with any sense at any time in history.

What did I say that made you think I needed a reminder?

104 posted on 01/18/2009 4:32:37 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: MamaTexan

you don’t sound like the sort of person who likes to be contradicted, big mama.


105 posted on 01/18/2009 4:34:06 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: the invisib1e hand; MamaTexan

The post was to MamaTexan, I pinged you as well since her original post was to you.


106 posted on 01/18/2009 4:49:54 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

The whole family visited my dad to say good bye when my father decided to end his life because his legs had given out and he couldn’t work any longer and at age 92 who’s to deny him his wishes.

He just refused to eat or drink anything until he died 2 weeks later.


107 posted on 01/18/2009 4:57:10 PM PST by dalereed
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To: dbz77
What Atta did was not the Will of God, I think anyone who has any common sense can see that.

We all have worries and concerns about ourselves and other people. When there is suffering, especially a family member's suffering, we want a resolution immediately, and sometimes we can only see one course of acceptable action, "take the pain away." We pray and pray for a happy outcome. But we can't possibly see that persons suffering the way God sees it; we can't possibly know why things happen the way they do. We have to accept the fact that not everything we ask for is for our own good, and that the only reason God might say "no" to saving this loved one from suffering is to unite this person closer to Him. It just takes a lot of Faith, Hope and Love.

108 posted on 01/18/2009 5:17:35 PM PST by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: DonnerT

I hope you are getting medical help.

that sounds like extended epilepsy (form of)

i had a friend who would get that for a few minutes...not hours


109 posted on 01/18/2009 5:27:49 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: cajungirl

Not “classic” either one. Only happens when flat on my back or in recliner.

Prescription gets me to sleep at night.

Would not wish to live in that condition every day.


110 posted on 01/18/2009 5:30:53 PM PST by DonnerT
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To: wardaddy

Only happens with absence of external stimuli.


111 posted on 01/18/2009 5:36:34 PM PST by DonnerT
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To: DonnerT

take care of yerself!


112 posted on 01/18/2009 5:43:35 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: Gerish
But we can't possibly see that persons suffering the way God sees it; we can't possibly know why things happen the way they do.
No, we can not, although I suspect it would be the same how we would see the suffering of a single bacterium.
113 posted on 01/18/2009 6:14:21 PM PST by dbz77
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To: dbz77

No, He paid for my whole life, in this world and in the next one. That’s why I try my best to live for Him now. I am His and that’s a awesome thing!


114 posted on 01/18/2009 6:39:24 PM PST by Former Fetus
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To: dbz77
God is good, therefore His will only includes good things. For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, said the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end. Jer. 29:11 There's evil in the world, but that is not God's will for us. However, God uses even those bad things and makes them work for good, to fulfill His purpose.
115 posted on 01/18/2009 6:44:39 PM PST by Former Fetus
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To: wagglebee

YOU don’t run her life. YOU have no say. Her death is her choice and is up to her and her God, not YOURS. Free people get to choose how they live and die. Not YOU, the state, the church or the courts.


116 posted on 01/18/2009 6:44:44 PM PST by kewlhandluke2
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To: DonnerT
My epilepsy (grand mal) only acts up at night, while I sleep. No external stimuli! That's fortunate for me, but after 20 years it still scares hubby to death. I don't know what medication you are taking, but I would encourage you to see a neurologist. You might also want to get more information from the Epilepsy Foundation of America
117 posted on 01/18/2009 6:49:40 PM PST by Former Fetus
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To: wardaddy; cajungirl; Former Fetus

Thank you for your replies and concern. I am quite contented with the condition of my condition.

My best hope of course is for a quiet exit in my sleep. Barring that I would not be averse to a bon-voyage celebration with beloved family and friends present.

I anticipate the existance of my soul on a higher plane no matter what the circumstances of my exit.


118 posted on 01/18/2009 9:48:34 PM PST by DonnerT
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To: DonnerT

To repeat from my first post as to the topic of this thread.

Far be it from me to decide what is right or wrong for anyone else or for anyone else to decide what is right or wrong for me under these circumstances.


119 posted on 01/18/2009 9:59:22 PM PST by DonnerT
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To: DesertRhino

if they could, they would.


120 posted on 01/18/2009 10:14:50 PM PST by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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