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To: theBuckwheat; GodGunsGuts
theBuchwheat: "At the very same time evolutionists insist their theory is not about how life originated, there would be nothing to naturally select, and nothing to randomly mutate unless somehow living cells not only appeared but were sufficiently functional as to be able to successfully reproduce the very first time.

"I have seen zero evidence that this ever happened, and what few theories that have been put forth are shamefully flimsy coming from such learned scientists and academics. "

GodGunsGuts:"Which makes them, by their own definition, “anti-science.”

Two points:

First of all, the theory of evolution is NOT a theory of origins. Darwin had no theory of origins, he merely speculated that something important may have happened in a mud puddle somewhere long ago.

And I'm not certain if even today there is an actual scientific "theory of origins." I suspect there are a number of hypotheses (aka: SWAGs) being worked on, but none that have yet "graduated" to the level of scientific theory. By the way, these more recent hypotheses have more-or-less abandoned Darwin's mud puddle for more exotic locations, such as deep sea volcanic vents. Really interesting work, imho.

Second of all, these researchers are all real scientists doing real scientific work, trying to develop real scientific theories -- some of which may or may not pan out long term.

By contrast you guys are only doing your d*mndest to convince people that real science is just another religion, and then impose your own strictly religious beliefs on science. Imho, you ought to be ashamed of yourselves!

92 posted on 01/18/2009 10:23:40 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK

Thank you for proving my exact point.


113 posted on 01/19/2009 6:09:01 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: BroJoeK; theBuckwheat
Second of all, these researchers are all real scientists doing real scientific work, trying to develop real scientific theories

"For a justification of our moral code we no longer have to have recourse to theological revelation, or to a metaphysical Absolute; Freud in combination with Darwin suffice to give us our philosophic vision." --Darwin Medalist Julian Huxley

"The garden of humanity is very full of weeds, nurture will never transform them into flowers; the eugenist calls upon the rulers of mankind to see that there shall be space in the garden, freed of weeds, for individuals and races of finer growth to develop with the full bloom possible to their species." --Darwin Medalist Karl Pearson

"[Eugenics] has indeed strong claims to become an orthodox religious tenet of the future, for Eugenics co-operates with the workings of nature by securing that humanity shall be represented by the fittest races... The first and main point is to secure the general intellectual acceptance of Eugenics... then let its principles work into the heart of the nation, which will gradually give practical effect to them in ways that we may not wholly forsee." --Darwin Medalist Francis Galton


114 posted on 01/19/2009 6:33:00 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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