[2banana]

I went to a state engineering schools. Tuition was about $5,000 a year which I earned working as a TA and odd jobs. Housing was free as a RA and living in a frat (well, almost free).

Graduated with no debt. First year salary more than paid for all the cost college plus interest (ROI - 1 year).

Of course, I was a geek, spend many a weekend studying and my employer actually expects productivity and something of value.

[iopscusa]

2banana...you have it right about the way to view Higher Ed...BTW I checked your about page here and lloved the history lesson on the Right to Bear Arms and the Agincourt to American Revolution analysis.

[Chickensoup]

That is because you are an engineer and engineers are smart.