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She said: "If we tolerate this and allow it, then how can we object when our servicemen and women, or others in foreign service, are captured and subjected to the same techniques?

I'd like her to point out one time our objections over the treatment of our soldiers in enemy hands ever resulted in any improvement.

1 posted on 01/14/2009 5:19:12 AM PST by Malone LaVeigh
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Re: She said Mr Qahtani had been subjected to sustained periods of cold, isolation and sleep deprivation.

I will be taking a trip to the mountains of Nepal this year and will experience cold, isolation and sleep deprivation. Does this mean I am torturing myself?


2 posted on 01/14/2009 5:20:34 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Guns don't kill people; abortion clinics do.)
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Exactly! Why don’t we just behead the enemy combatants and be done with it.


3 posted on 01/14/2009 5:20:45 AM PST by PhiloBedo (I won't be happy until Jet-A is less than $2.00 a gallon)
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“She said Mr Qahtani had been subjected to sustained periods of cold, isolation and sleep deprivation.”

The victims of 911 were subjected to far worse.


4 posted on 01/14/2009 5:23:54 AM PST by Slapshot68
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I suspect he was about as close to being in “life threatening conditions” as I am to being crowned King of Mars, Jupiter and all points beyond by the Intergalactic Space Agency.


5 posted on 01/14/2009 5:24:27 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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We were never again attacked. Zero can do things His way. Results are what counts. People did talk afterwards. She is alive.


6 posted on 01/14/2009 5:24:28 AM PST by reefdiver (How do you keep the Conservative a Conservative, in Washington DC ?)
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She said: "If we tolerate this and allow it, then how can we object when our servicemen and women, or others in foreign service, are captured and subjected to the same techniques?

Is she so naive as to believe that al queda, or any of the others we're fighting, abide by the Geneva Conventions?

7 posted on 01/14/2009 5:26:50 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Baraq Hussein 0bama - Affirmative Action Usurper Infesting the Whitey House - Jan 20th)
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You think of torture, you think of some horrendous physical act done to an individual," she told the Post. "This was not any one particular act; this was just a combination of things that had a medical impact on him, that hurt his health.

In other words, he was not brutalized or had his head cut off, he just had to suffer some cold, sleep deprivation and Barry Manilow.

Torture, indeed.

8 posted on 01/14/2009 5:29:55 AM PST by Pistolshot ("Democrats don't show respect, they just demand respect " - ClearCase_guy)
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According to a report by Amnesty International, Mr Qahtani was at various times forced to wear women's clothes and was tied by a lead and forced to perform animal tricks.

Elliot Spitzer would have paid thousands for the same treatment!

And the document, published last May, also contained allegations that dogs had been used on two occasions to "terrorise" the detainee.

On the other hand, I heard the terrorists raved about the cuisine. And the prayer rugs were nice too!

9 posted on 01/14/2009 5:30:52 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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Guantanamo agents ‘used torture’

Thank You Agents for doing your duty and placing the well-fare of American Citizens over Political Correctness the concerns of Socialists and other assorted Terrorist factions.....


10 posted on 01/14/2009 5:32:29 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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After all of the whingeing about the treatment, they are puzzled what to do with a man too dangerous to release.


11 posted on 01/14/2009 5:33:01 AM PST by listenhillary (No representation without taxation! ~~ Mark Steyn)
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Forget torture its better to send the SOB back in a body bag. (or pig skin) These bleeding hearts never bleed for the victims, they only bleed for the culprits.


12 posted on 01/14/2009 5:34:21 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Liberals fear the return of The Cleaver Family.)
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” no decision has yet been announced on the future of Mr Qahtani and other inmates who are deemed too dangerous to release, but may be impossible to prosecute.”
Institution for the criminally insane? For life? Rubber room, straightjacket for life.


13 posted on 01/14/2009 5:35:53 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing! I'm a doctor, and I won't touch that thing!)
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If this “Republican” Susan Crawford is typical of the type of people hired and trusted by the Bush Administration, it’s no wonder the Bush Administration’s war on terror is viewed as broke. (which it’s not)

Even if she felt so strongly, she should have kept her own counsel.... instead of blasting this all over the world.... which not puts American service men and women in EVEN MORE harm than they already are.

Every time I get the least bit proud of the Bush Admin, something like (Susan Crawford) occurs which makes me wonder if the admin ever had any brains.


14 posted on 01/14/2009 5:36:08 AM PST by Edit35 (.)
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“If we tolerate this and allow it, then how can we object when our servicemen and women, or others in foreign service, are captured and subjected to the same techniques?


Well Mam, you obviously are not much of a historian or fact checker or you would know that the enemies we are engaged with sort of like to drag people behind vehicles dead or alive, march them through streets beating them with sticks and clubs to the cheers of the onlookers, hang them in public and or chop their heads of with big swords.
Soory that our enemies are not the touchy feely nice people you would like them to be and that we (America) must do somethings that we would otherwise not want to so in order to save our Nation and Civilization..
However if you do not like civilization you are welcome to move to Sudan or Iran at any time.............


15 posted on 01/14/2009 5:37:36 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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I don’t care if they dipped him in acid, we got information that saved lives.

We can always take NO prisoners.


16 posted on 01/14/2009 5:37:57 AM PST by SueRae
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all I can say is

THANK YOU

Guantanamo agents, for keeping us safe.


17 posted on 01/14/2009 5:38:37 AM PST by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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Mr Qahtani remains at Guantanamo, but all charges against him were dropped.

Not to infer that he's innocent, however. I think the original charges against him were dropped, but weren't new ones were filed a couple of months ago?

"This was not any one particular act; this was just a combination of things that had a medical impact on him, that hurt his health."

Hope they didn't give him cigarettes.

18 posted on 01/14/2009 5:40:22 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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Why do our guys just shoot him in the head, and everyone wins?


19 posted on 01/14/2009 5:44:24 AM PST by ScottinVA (All I needed to know about islam I learned on 9-11.)
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Define torture.

NOW!


20 posted on 01/14/2009 5:46:40 AM PST by Sig Sauer P220 (The Big 3 Auto Makers - Where Attention to Kwality is Jobe Won.)
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re: subjected to sustained periods of cold, isolation and sleep deprivation

Sounds like they might have sent him to the Army, Air Force, Marines, Navy or Coast Guard boot camp. I’m sure there are people in boot camp right now that would gladly trade places with him!

I don’t consider any of these things ‘torture’. They might be tough and leave some psychological scars, but they don’t rise to the level of torture, IMHO.


22 posted on 01/14/2009 5:47:46 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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