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To: Badeye

I really don’t want to go out while naked or on the crapper - but I’m not going to stop showering, changing close, having sex, or taking a dump.

If you want to be able to dictate what other do, then you should look for an actual democracy wherein a majority determines what is lawful and illegal.

In a Republic, hence the country we live in and the reason behind this site name - no one person or group of people or majority of people have any business nor right to tell anyone what can or cannot be done. Regardless of the subject so long as it does not compromise our freedom, our inalienable rights, or bring about the end of the world - you cannot determine what is or is not ok for others to do or refrain from doing.

Unfortunately we’ve lost site of that aspect of our nation and have an illegal democracy being projected to the public which has allowed misguided or downright corrupted officials to kill liberty. We have to revive it or it will be lost forever. The first place we can start is by realizing none of us have the right to tell others how to live.


133 posted on 01/14/2009 2:09:50 PM PST by Kentuckian (Ignoring the obvious!)
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To: Kentuckian
But you are wrong sir...driving is an action which requires a license that can only be acquired from the state. It is not a "right" or a "freedom," it is a privelege that the state permits (note the word "permits"-as in licenses) you to engage in.

Driving is not "an unalienable right" it is a permitted action. THEREFORE, no one is abridging or "taking away" your rights, nor are they killing liberty," they are altering the terms under which they permit you to perform that act of privelege.

You still have the "right" to object, petition your government to refrain from taking this action and you still have the right to negate the contract represented by your license and stop driving if you are unhappy with the changes. You can still walk. The state does not have the power to license that.

Living in a "true democracy" or a "republic" (as we do) is completely irrelevent. It is not the form of government with which we are concerned or is cogent to the conversation, it is the action...which is a privelege.
135 posted on 01/14/2009 2:32:56 PM PST by Sudetenland (Those diplomats serve best, who serve as cannon fodder to protect our troops!)
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To: Kentuckian
Unfortunately we’ve lost site of that aspect of our nation and have an illegal democracy being projected to the public which has allowed misguided or downright corrupted officials to kill liberty.

I agree, which is why I would just up the ante for people who cannot successfully yak and get where they are going without killing someone, which infringes on their liberty.

With freedom comes responsibility, and that is the thing we have lost.

147 posted on 01/15/2009 4:15:40 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Kentuckian

Sorry, I don’t want to die of a theory. You can go ‘Lockerroom Constitutional Lawyer’ if you wish, but at the end of the day hand held electronic devices should not be used while operating a motor vehicle.

Thats just common sense.


150 posted on 01/15/2009 5:55:56 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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