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To: Impy

No, haven’t heard back. Unlike the GOP caucus, Naifeh has held such absolute power that he has never had a single rodent vote against him during his time as far as I can tell... and with this farce of a coup d’etat, he still hasn’t. He’s had plenty of RINOs vote for him, though (even when Naifeh has NEVER given the GOP a Committee Chairmanship).


105 posted on 01/13/2009 4:44:34 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; Impy
Naifeh may hold records for power in TN, but his Illinois equivalent Mike Madigan still outranks him by 8 years (speaker since '83 vs. speaker since '91). These RATs seem to hold power as long as they're breathing. Even when the other party holds a nominal "majority", they'll still pulling the damn strings behind the scenes.

I agree that you're unlikely to get any "conservative" Dems to break ranks and support the Republican. RAT party discipline is incredible. It works the same way on the federal level -- the Dems will get RINOs to crossover and vote to put RATs in charge, but the Zell Millers, Gene Taylors, and Heath Schuler's of the world will continue to vote for socialists to run their chambers, no matter what happens. And in Illinois, we have have a handful of southern Illinois Dems who are to the right of Henry Hyde on the issues and whose districts went to McCain by almost 60%. Doesn't matter -- they vote to have Emil Jones & Mike Madigan run the show, and continue to get re-elected.

BTW, owing to their constiuencies -- Mike Madigan (D) represents an heavily irish-Catholic southwest Cook County constituency -- House Minority Tom Cross (RINO) represents a rural farming community in Kendall county -- means our RAT Speaker is socially conservative and pro-life (at least on paper) while our "Republican" leader is socially liberal and pro-abortion. Kinda reminds me of Pennsylvania's Senators.

Also, taking out Kent Williams may be harder than it sounds. We had a treasonous State Rep. (Paul Froehlich of Schamburg) here in Illinois who got re-elected in 2006 by pledging to advance the Republican Party in Illinois (he was township GOP chairman at the time), then he turned around and voted for Madigan for Speaker, and caucused with the RATs. He was promptly expelled from the party and since the district has a Republican State Senator, it seems to everyone -- including liberal Democrat media pundits -- that he would lose to a GOP challenger next time. The RATs had no use for him since they had already had a safe majority, and they didn't want another pro-life, pro-gun RAT who wasn't "progressive" enough for them. Well, Speaker Mike poured zillions of dollars into his primary campaign, and he was nominated on the RAT line over his "progressive, true Democrat" opponent. Then in the general election, his GOP challenger was underfunded thanks to Republicans wasting their time on dead-on-arrival U.S. Senate candidate Steve Sauerberg, and the surge of black RAT turnout with Obama on top of the ticket. In the end, Froehlich squeaked by, even though he had around a 38% approval rating after betraying his party and lying to his constituents last time.

112 posted on 01/13/2009 5:07:18 PM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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