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Reason ^ | January 12, 2009 | r. balko

Posted on 01/12/2009 10:55:29 PM PST by FormerACLUmember

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To: agere_contra

I think the point was that people should not ignore court orders. Whether you agree or disagree with the order or not...don’t ignore it and assume/hope that it will go away.

Had he gone to court and he could have probably fought it and won, albeit with some completely undeserved expense and time lost. It’s not fair, but you can’t ignore those things.


21 posted on 01/13/2009 3:40:09 AM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: perez24
That sounds like a win-win situation for the so called Legal System. An innocent man has to pay a scum bag lawyer even though he hasn't committed any crime. There will be no justice in this once free Nation until the people that cause this outrage enjoy some serious jail time.
22 posted on 01/13/2009 5:19:08 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: FormerACLUmember

AMAZING! All that it took was a government gestapo troop to take him to make a face-to-face ID with the mother, and if she was deceased, the girl. They would have found that the girl actually lived with her real father. Case closed!


23 posted on 01/13/2009 5:20:22 AM PST by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Never, ever, ignore official mail.

He could have responded in crayon and the court would have ordered paternity testing and he would be off the hook.

Making the biologic father pay for their children is not wrong. Getting the mother to name the father in order to get them off tax payer money is the moral and ethical thing to do.

Ignoring a court letter naming you a father is a bad mistake. These things happen, I was named in a paternity suit when I was 19 by a total stranger. All I had to do was deny it, it didn’t even procede to blood testing.


24 posted on 01/13/2009 5:48:08 AM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: dangerdoc; Myrddin

This Family Court false paternity scandal is a common problem, as evidenced by the 2 of the fine posters on this tiny thread have been through this horror!


25 posted on 01/13/2009 6:24:37 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: seemoAR

“That sounds like a win-win situation for the so called Legal System. An innocent man has to pay a scum bag lawyer even though he hasn’t committed any crime. There will be no justice in this once free Nation until the people that cause this outrage enjoy some serious jail time.”

mega-dittos


26 posted on 01/13/2009 6:25:23 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: FormerACLUmember

Our “Criminal Justice System” is sick. The inmates are running the asylum.


27 posted on 01/13/2009 6:45:23 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: Myrddin

“It makes me wonder if they had access to income information, thus were searching for a high income person that was too busy to pay attention to the scam they were attempting.”

They probably DO have access to income info. In Texas everybody that punches somebody’s clock have their earnings reported to the State every quarter, for just this reason. When the AG seeks to modify my support, they never ask me how much I made in the last 4 quarters: they already possess that information.


28 posted on 01/13/2009 6:52:28 AM PST by ziravan (Hiring a democrat to cut taxes is like hiring a pedophile to babysit.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

IIRC, there was a case in the last year or so where the man proved he was not the father but the court ruled he had to continue to pay support because the mother and child had become accustomed to it and there was no one else to pay! What a crock!

We’ve reached the point that the law is as big a threat to the average citizen as the criminals. I had some contact with the criminal justice system last year on behalf of my grandson. He was absolutely guilty, but the system was chock full of errors. I realized that had he been innocent I would have been powerless to help him prove it.

I’ve been saying for years that future historians will look back at America and wonder how they managed to systematically undo everything that made it the greatest country in the history of Earth. One by one they were overturned by a court, voted out or just simply disappeared. I fear the next four years will be remembered for our country falling apart.


29 posted on 01/13/2009 6:53:56 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: porter_knorr

“I have zero sympathy for someone who ignores a court order.”

I have no sympathy for DEADBEATS that ignore court orders. This guy, however, knew the info was blatantly a mistake and assumed that it couldn’t proceed because it was so wrong. His mistake wasn’t in not being a supportive dad. HIS mistake was underestimating the incompetence of government. Sadly, people do that all the time, hence the coming Administration.


30 posted on 01/13/2009 6:55:18 AM PST by ziravan (Hiring a democrat to cut taxes is like hiring a pedophile to babysit.)
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To: jwparkerjr
I’ve been saying for years that future historians will look back at America and wonder how they managed to systematically undo everything that made it the greatest country in the history of Earth.

Too many cafe and internet revolutionaries. Not enough people willing to sacrifice to keep their freedoms. It's easier to gripe than fight.
31 posted on 01/13/2009 7:00:35 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
You can never, ever, ever just ignore something from this particular type of government office. The women who staff this particular American Gestapo absolutely HATE men. The very best thing to do might be to find a woman to talk to them on your behalf.

While I was a title officer, and had to do some research on child support liens that required a call to their offices, I'd always have a female co-worker make the call, those b!tches would not give me the time of day, even though I was engaged in an activity that might lead to them getting money from some poor guy they were in pursuit of.

32 posted on 01/13/2009 7:23:05 AM PST by hunter112 (We seem to be on an excrement river in a Native American watercraft without a propulsion device.)
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To: ziravan
HIS mistake was underestimating the incompetence of government.

Actually, his mistake was underestimating the vindictiveness and evil of government.

I've had my own experience with family court. It's an insane system.

33 posted on 01/13/2009 8:42:20 AM PST by zeugma (Will it be nukes or aliens? Time will tell.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Thanks for sharing your experience, which appears fairly common in the Peoples Republic of California. I hope you are in good health and employed.

My health is fine. Two weeks after I got the layoff notice, I tracked down $3 million in new contracts. I took the work to a different manager. Not the clown who sent me a layoff notice after living the good life while I worked 240 hours per month at $250/hour. A good manager puts money away to cover slack time or tracks down new work so there isn't slack time.

34 posted on 01/13/2009 9:16:05 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: hunter112
You can never, ever, ever just ignore something from this particular type of government office. The women who staff this particular American Gestapo absolutely HATE men. The very best thing to do might be to find a woman to talk to them on your behalf. While I was a title officer, and had to do some research on child support liens that required a call to their offices, I'd always have a female co-worker make the call, those b!tches would not give me the time of day, even though I was engaged in an activity that might lead to them getting money from some poor guy they were in pursuit of.

My own experience exactly. Many of these creeps seem to be man-hating lesbians.

35 posted on 01/13/2009 9:34:29 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: seemoAR

I agree that the people ought to go to jail and the guy was horribly screwed over the “justice” system. However, you can’t ignore court orders or you will pay.


36 posted on 01/13/2009 4:58:04 PM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: ziravan

how hard is it to follow up instead of ignoring a problem?
If you get a court order, you show up and explain the issue, you don’t ignore it!


37 posted on 01/13/2009 8:50:27 PM PST by porter_knorr
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To: perez24
You are right. Lawyers make out big time. We must all do what is wrong when the devil calls the shots. Evil exists in the “family justice system”. Any person who wrongfully accuses an innocent person should get the same punishment (and pay the innocent person's lawyer fees) if it is proven they did it on purpose.
38 posted on 01/14/2009 4:33:13 AM PST by seemoAR
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