I don't know if Bush consciously wanted the Dems to take over in 2009, but he could not have done much more to ensure that they did.
Posted on 01/12/2009 4:59:05 PM PST by rabscuttle385
McCain was just a symptom of the fracturing of the conservative coalition.
There were just too many one issue voters....no one more conservative than McCain could muster the votes. Hunter got the immigration activists, Romney got the business people, Thompson got people like me, Huckabee got the evangelicals. McCain got the nomination by default as far as I’m concerned, mostly from party hacks and the uninformed (some Dem crossovers, but not many-they were too busy swooning over Obama).
FWIW, the only thing good about this loss is that it was McCain that lost. I can’t stand him and hope he disappears.
Actually, I’m now glad they didn’t build a wall. I want to be able to leave when the Communists really start feeling their oats.
At anyrate, check out View from the Right, where Auster blogs daily.
No matter what we lose...if the GOP fights the issue we lose Florida and other areas with high Latino populations. If we roll over we lose...I don’t know what the answer is, but I can’t see a win-win situation for the GOP in this issue.
I don't think the Latino population (and voter participation) is high enough to swing the vote anywhere but maybe California and New Mexico. There are still a lot of conservatives in Florida and other states with high Latino populations. Bush brags about the 43% he claims to have gotten in 2004, but many dispute that and believe it was more like 37%. And Reagan got 41% in 1984.
But some damage has been done by Bush pushing and pushing the issue. He put off many Republicans and some number of Latinos were put off, but I think that is greatly exaggerated by those who want to pander to Hispanics on and on.
One interesting stat: Latinos are about 14% of the population, but only about 6.5% of the votes cast in 2008. Illegals are counted in the census, and are in any population estimate. Nothing will damage the Republicans more than these half-witted legalization schemes that Bush and Rove thought would win so many to the party. They were nuts to ever think they'd attract all those natural Dem constituents (as most all more recent arrivals are).
I think the best thing is to keep fighting amnesty, and appeal to Latinos with basic conservative principles.
Sap-happy Rove also suggested that, once here, criminals and lawbreakers would become so enamored with democracy, they would forget their corrupt ways and embrace democracy and all it stands for (famous last words).
Bush/Rove were sucking up to latinos and promising to turn the US into a Third World for their pleasure AT THE SAME TIME illegals were getting 100% mortgages, flipping them back and forth between family members at higher and higher prices, then defaulting and absconding to Mexico with huge pots of money----leaving banks (and US citizens) holding the bag.
Thanks to Bush, tens of thousands of illegals hightailed it over the border after reading Mexican newspapers ads headlining : "Free Houses in the USA."
Illegals were establishing several identities with forged documents and stolen SS nos, getting on the US gravy train---and sending billions of US dollars back to Mexico.
They are now lining up for Obama's stimulus freebies, thanks to Rove's creating an "illegals voting bloc" (that elected Obama).
Rove and Bush also made a side deal with Mexico----and now the Mexican government is salivating over getting their hands on more and more US assets.
You forgot one little detail------Bush sent Karl Rove to reassure the La Raza racists----- US laws would NOT be enforced to allow those violating our borders aliens to have a "better life" in the US.
Sap-happy Rove also suggested that, once here, criminals and lawbreakers would become so enamored with democracy, they would forget their corrupt ways and embrace democracy and all it stands for (famous last words).
An idiot for reading your venomous rantings.
I don't know if Bush consciously wanted the Dems to take over in 2009, but he could not have done much more to ensure that they did.
Why can’t Bush just commute Ramos/Compean’s sentences? He doesn’t have to pardon them. He didn’t pardon Lewis Libby. But he got him out of jail.
Nice post. Thanks for the headsup....and the link.
>>The Republican Party (and...FR) is infested with “pragmatists” who care more for power than abiding by one’s core principles.<<
And the irony is that the result of this “pragmatism” is to nominate ever more leftward candidates, and consequently, to lose GOP power.
They still don’t get it.....(sigh)
ping
Alfred E. Newmann and George W. Bush - separated at birth.
I guess Ramos and Compean will rot in solitary confinement for the next ten years thanks to this idiot.
BINGO!!!!
The Dems never worry about conservative votes. Why should Republicans worry about liberal votes when poll after poll indicates America is a center-right country???
Because they are useless idiots and need to be replaced - NOW.
“Bush just tried to get you a good deal on immigration when he could”
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Bush is an idiot who refused to enforce the laws of the land - laws he took an oath of office to enforce TWICE.
He should have been impeached over his flawed Mexican border policies by his own political party.
I never listened to what Clinton had to say - it was damaging to the brain. I reached the same conclusion with Jorge el Segundo in his second term.
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