[GodGunsGuts]

The reason why I was asking is that I have read about several such experiments, and in each case they must intelligently control the initial conditions, otherwise the RNA will stick to everything it touches. In other words, the initial conditions are intelligently designed (to include the fabrication of the RNA molecule itself).

[CottShop]

[[The reason why I was asking is that I have read about several such experiments, and in each case they must intelligently control the initial conditions, otherwise the RNA will stick to everything it touches.]]

This was quite the same GGG- intelligently designed- infact, it was a designer RNA that was used for hte experiment because a natural one presented problems that could not be overcome naturally- The article is one of htose ‘nothign new under the sun’ articles where they artifically inflate their claims to deceive people into thinking life could arise naturally and unintelligently- when the simply fact was that they had to engineer the RNA first before they could proceed with their ‘origins of life’ experiment

[cacoethes_resipisco]

Note, I'm not making the claim that the experiment has anything to do with the origin of life (though it may). I'm pointing out that the existence of self-replicating RNA strands (however arrived at), falsifies Williams claim here:

"Autopoiesis literally means ‘self-making’ (from the Greek auto for self, and the verb poiéō meaning ‘I make’ or ‘I do’) and it refers to the unique ability of a living organism to continually repair and maintain itself—ultimately to the point of reproducing itself—using energy and raw materials from its environment. In contrast, an allopoietic system (from the Greek allo for other) such as a car factory, uses energy and raw materials to produce an organized structure (a car) which is something other than itself (a factory).9

Autopoiesis is a unique and amazing property of life—there is nothing else like it in the known universe..."