[cacoethes_resipisco]

Note, I'm not making the claim that the experiment has anything to do with the origin of life (though it may). I'm pointing out that the existence of self-replicating RNA strands (however arrived at), falsifies Williams claim here:

"Autopoiesis literally means ‘self-making’ (from the Greek auto for self, and the verb poiéō meaning ‘I make’ or ‘I do’) and it refers to the unique ability of a living organism to continually repair and maintain itself—ultimately to the point of reproducing itself—using energy and raw materials from its environment. In contrast, an allopoietic system (from the Greek allo for other) such as a car factory, uses energy and raw materials to produce an organized structure (a car) which is something other than itself (a factory).9

Autopoiesis is a unique and amazing property of life—there is nothing else like it in the known universe..."

[GodGunsGuts]

We are talking about naturalistic explanations, not intelligently designed explanations. They are using intelligent design to copy what life already makes, and then championing the replicative properties of what already exists in biology. That doesn’t get anywhere near a naturalistic explanation for proto-life, not to mention explaining the autopoietic hierarchy, each step of which cannot be explained by the step below it, not to mention comprehensively integrated, information-driven, metabolic functions that integrate the same.

[CottShop]

[[Note, I’m not making the claim that the experiment has anything to do with the origin of life (though it may). I’m pointing out that the existence of self-replicating RNA strands (however arrived at), falsifies Williams claim here:]]

It wouldn’t falsify it precisely because the metainfo is already present, and ALL the geneticists are doign is manipulating it- that doesn’t falisfy anythign put forth in the paper we’re discussing.

the ability for Autopoiesis was already present in the RNA- This just goes to further prove his point that Autopoiesis is a unique and amazing property of life—there is nothing else like it in the known universe...”