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To: DoughtyOne
Doughty,

I, like you, get no pleasure in calling this one as I see it. Yes I would support the GOP president over anyone the Rats put forth.

As bad as he was for the GOP, McCain could easily have won this election by simply coming out against the stupid bailout IMO. I still cannot believe the non citizen with every possible anti American supporter won over a veteran no less. Reminds me of when the draft dodger beat the first Bush.

Anyway, we are in for a rough ride for at least the next few years till hopefully we can take back the house. No way we get the Senate anytime soon. And a rough ride it will be as we have little leverage as both Pelousy and Reid will use their virtually delay and amendment proof houses to put forth a host of socialist programs and policies.

53 posted on 01/12/2009 5:13:40 AM PST by Mouton
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To: Mouton
Doughty,  I, like you, get no pleasure in calling this one as I see it. Yes I would support the GOP president over anyone the Rats put forth.  I know a lot of folks came away with that decision this time around.  I can understand why.  I do have to say, I think the overall impact of having RINOs in there, more than outweighs the downside of having someone like Carter, Clinton, or Obama in there for one term.

Over the last twenty years, we had Repbulican rule for 12 of the years.  That would seem to be a break-even setup.  Can you honestly say you think we have broken even over the last twenty years since Reagan left office?  We had the majority in Congress for twelve of those years also.  Did we make progress overall, or did we lose ground?  IMO, we lost ground.  I don't even think it's close.  This nation has slide so far backwards over the last twenty years, it sickens me.  For that reason, I'm not signing on to support RINOs any longer.  Give me someone who can articulate what Conservatism is and why it's better than Socialism/Marxism, or go away.  No more Compassionate Conservatism for me.  It's either sound fiscal, international, domestic, and political policy, or these guys can find a new line of work.

As bad as he was for the GOP, McCain could easily have won this election by simply coming out against the stupid bailout IMO. I still cannot believe the non citizen with every possible anti American supporter won over a veteran no less. Reminds me of when the draft dodger beat the first Bush.  One thing Clinton and Obama had going for them, is their opponents ran terrible campaigns.  McCain was convinced it was wrong to clearly define Obama for who he actually was.  McCain had also destroyed his own credibility with many Conservatives.  I couldn't trust the guy any farther than I could drop kick him.  He actually associated with George Soros, and flipped the party majority off on immigration policy.  There was plenty of other bad policy he had backed.  He went along with the bailout.  And I'm going to offer up a mea culpa on that point.  I supported the initial bailout based on the description of the credit markets when this mess first went public.  It was stated that they needed the $700 billion influx right away, or the credit markets would fold.  They needed it in days, or so they said.  To date they still haven't used the $700 billion they just had to have in days.  And all that did was open Pandora's Box.  Now everyone wants a bailout, and they are actually entertaining that thought.  I was wrong.  McCain however was in a very different seat than I was.  He was on the inside and should have known better.  I was lied to.  He should have had the full scoop.  He was in a better position to know the truth on this, and yet you are right.  He still supported the bailout.

Anyway, we are in for a rough ride for at least the next few years till hopefully we can take back the house. No way we get the Senate anytime soon. And a rough ride it will be as we have little leverage as both Pelousy and Reid will use their virtually delay and amendment proof houses to put forth a host of socialist programs and policies.  Just remember, the guy you voted for may actually cast votes with the Democrats on their agenda.  He may be the 60th Democrat when push comes to shove.  We shall see.

I appreciate your alternative point of view.  I don't think it's a point of view that is not justifiable.  I've just had it with putting folks in there who are not going to support my beliefs.  And if they aren't, then I'd rather have somone in there from the other side, so when things hit the fan, they can take the heat for a change.

Tell me, who would you rather be taking the blame for this financial meltdown, the Democrats or the Republicans?  It drives me crazy to know this happened on our president's watch, even if I do think the Democrats engineered this mess.

56 posted on 01/12/2009 5:37:18 AM PST by DoughtyOne (I see that Kenya's favorite son has a new weekly Saturday morning radio show.)
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