Posted on 01/11/2009 4:59:19 PM PST by GOPGuide
Our little Paki friend... Ahmed. Oh boy. I've heard that one before. But not as recently as the friends I spoke to yesterday in Oldham, a place where racial tensions spilled into riots not long ago. Apparently, they still get called Paki all the time. By whom? Oh, just little kids on the street. What can you do? They're only children. Prince Harry is not a child. He is unlucky only in that, unlike most young men, his worst moments end up splashed across the front page of newspapers.
That he thought it acceptable to use the word Paki to refer to a Pakistani colleague represents a pathetic failure in his upbringing. Someone, somewhere along the line - a wise grandparent perhaps - should have told him to cut it out. These days the word Paki is used only by those who don't know any better, rather than by those who should. The Equalities and Human Rights Commission thinks that we need an inquiry into the Prince's behaviour. What would we discover? That the third in line to the throne is a bit of an idiot? That is an open-and-shut case. But we should have an inquiry about the word Paki.
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Who do I sue, and how much do I get?
Heh, in MA we used to use the term Packie all the time— it meant Package store, AKA Liquor Store.
It's a soldier with his friends. The bit at the end had him as the butt of the jokes.
God save the UK, the PC police have taken over.
I don’t know if Paki is racist in Great Britain, but it is a derogatory term in every country.
Those are hardly relative comparisons. How about is it racist or disrepectful to call an Asian a gook? That would be a more apt comparison.
When I was in England in the 80s, one night while watching tv news the announcer brought up a story of an accident on the M4 between a delivery truck and an auto. The newsman read the story as follows: Two adults and two children in the auto were injured in the accident along with two dogs being transported in the delivery truck. Also injured in the accident was a Pakistani man that was driving the truck.
Go figure.
Didn’t the British use slave labor for the oil fields in Iran? Although the slaves weren’t African.
This raises an important point, that point being the insidious and cunning of the politically correct. I believe that it was - well anyway, a character in Alice In Wonderland, who said to this effect. "Words mean just what I choose them to mean".
During an American Presidential campaign, a candidate called certain residents of Maine, Canucks. The roof fell in on him. "Racist, racist" etc. Many Canadians had migrated there for a better way of life. In the meantime skiers who achieved success for Canada rejoiced in the name "the crazy Canucks". This was their style., hair raising stuff. The NHL team is called "The Vancouver Canucks".
Even the name "Gypsy" was banned in England as an insult. Then the true Romany got angry at their name being so banned. So today "Gypsy" is back in. This for the real proven Romany, about five thousand in number. "Travellers" are used for the new age nomads, not gypsies, but doing nothing and taking much. The usual suspects of course, pretend gypsies.
It is all in the political agenda- as you point out, by your post.
Is some parts of the south calling someone a Yank or Yankee might get you hurt.
Forget for a moment my Yanks and Canucks comparison.
In line with my original posit: Gooks would be from “Gooklandia” or Gookistan or something like that.
Yeah, but is it “RAAASSSICCCIIISSSTTT”
I agree, in the context Prince Harry was using it in, its a fuss about nothing. Me and my friends refer to each other as ‘nonces’ (brit vulgar slang for paedophile), ‘c**ts’, ‘t**ts’ etc frequently as a means of affectionate insult. Taken out of context it’s outrageous, and if I was to go up to some guy I didn’t know and call them those names, I’d expect a fist to be heading towards my face pretty soon after....
Your opinion aside, Pakistanis consider it an insult to be called Pakis, and most people know that.
Me:”...the latin adjective niger - which meant the color black”
You could easily be right - I tool 7 years of French but no Latin... I did look it up and found numerous references that said “nioger” however.
http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/caricature/
>>The etymology of nigger is often traced to the Latin niger, meaning black. The Latin niger became the noun negro (black person) in English, and simply the color black in Spanish and Portuguese. In Early Modern French niger became negre and, later, negress (black woman) was clearly a part of lexical history. One can compare to negre the derogatory nigger and earlier English variants such as negar, neegar, neger, and niggor which developed into a parallel lexico-semantic reality in English. It is likely that nigger is a phonetic spelling of the white Southern mispronunciation of Negro. Whatever its origins, by the early 1800s it was firmly established as a denigrative epithet. Almost two centuries later, it remains a chief symbol of white racism.<<
That I've never heard. At any rate, Iran was never a British colony and therefore never Crown territory; British common law was never in force there.
Thanks for the info. I must admit that at the ripe old age of 49 years I have never uttered nor heard anyone utter nor ever thought of uttering the epithet “Paki”..... so as an American the whole controversy seems very remote to me. But I’ll take your word for it that the term is very offensive.
"Paki" wouldn't have been one of them. Because Pakistan is a created acronym from Punjab, Afghania Kashmir, Sindh, and it didn't exist before Indian/Pakistani independence
As for it being offensive http://www.paki.com/
You septics are so sensitive.
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