We're past that point. He has released a couple of images of certificates. Hawaii has confirmed that they have a birth certificate for 0bama. The problem is all of these certificates are probably different things. The suspicion of fraud hangs heavy in the air. There can be no possible objection to allowing anyone who wants to, to obtain a certified copy of the original birth certificate unless a VERY significant fraud has been perpetrated upon the real citizens of the United States.
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OK, great. Thanks for confirming that much at least. It's enough for people to start attacking me when I say it.
"The problem is all of these certificates are probably different things. The suspicion of fraud hangs heavy in the air."
The only suspicion of fraud I see in the air is here. Nobody else is taking this seriously. And here, there is a relatively small group of people that keep posting things and making the same false or unsupported claims.
A lot of the other people are just reading these threads and assuming those people know what they are talking about, or that since they've read an assertion so many times it must be true.
Out in the real world this is not an issue.
There's no real mystery about the differnt forms. It works pretty much like it works in most jurisdictions. When you are born someone fills out a form and it is filed away. When you request a copy of your birth certificate they don't just photo copy that form. They create a new certificate containing the data from the original.
That's how I got my birth certificate, that's probably how it works for most people. That requested certified copy is a legal proof of time and place of birth. The state will not create one unless they have the original record that backs it up.