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To: Coyoteman

Both sides are staffed with scientists who must grapple with the same evidence, and come to very different conclusions.


6 posted on 01/09/2009 7:41:55 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Both sides are staffed with scientists who must grapple with the same evidence, and come to very different conclusions.

But one side will follow the evidence wherever it leads.

The other side will distort, misrepresent, and ignore evidence as required to make everything come out supporting scripture and revelation--no matter what.

As an example, lets take the Creation Research Society. This is on their website:

The Creation Research Society is a professional organization of trained scientists and interested laypersons who are firmly committed to scientific special creation. The Society was organized in 1963 by a committee of ten like-minded scientists, and has grown into an organization with an international membership.

CRS Statement of Belief

All members must subscribe to the following statement of belief:

1. The Bible is the written Word of God, and because it is inspired throughout, all its assertions are historically and scientifically true in the original autographs. To the student of nature this means that the account of origins in Genesis is a factual presentation of simple historical truths.

2. All basic types of living things, including man, were made by direct creative acts of God during the Creation Week described in Genesis. Whatever biological changes have occurred since Creation Week have accomplished only changes within the original created kinds.

3. The great flood described in Genesis, commonly referred to as the Noachian Flood, was an historic event worldwide in its extent and effect.

4. We are an organization of Christian men and women of science who accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. The account of the special creation of Adam and Eve as one man and one woman and their subsequent fall into sin is the basis for our belief in the necessity of a Savior for all mankind. Therefore, salvation can come only through accepting Jesus Christ as our Savior.

See any opportunity for data-driven science there? Or is this an organization dedicated to supporting scripture and revelation--no matter what?

I think even you will have to admit its the latter. And that is the exact opposite of science.

So don't give us any "Both sides are staffed with scientists who must grapple with the same evidence, and come to very different conclusions" nonsense. One side is doing science and the other is doing religious apologetics.

8 posted on 01/09/2009 8:05:43 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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Both sides are staffed with scientists who must grapple with the same evidence, and come to very different conclusions.

One side has 100,000s of thosands of highly educated scientists working in specialities associated with evaluation of evolution.

The other side has a handful of people, those few with real, actual legitimate advanced degrees (as opposed to ones fake diploma factories) tend to be from fields not directly associated with biology, paleontology, etc.

18 posted on 01/09/2009 8:58:34 PM PST by Strategerist
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