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Cops shoot unarmed man in the head
YouTube ^ | 5 January, 2009 | KTVU News

Posted on 01/07/2009 2:10:16 PM PST by LuxMaker

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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Maybe, maybe, maybe!!!! BS!!!!!
41 posted on 01/07/2009 2:42:37 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: LuxMaker

1. I couldn’t see what happened at all.
2. BART cop?
3. The penalty for shooting a gangster should be receipt of a coupon for a free box of ammunition.


42 posted on 01/07/2009 2:43:03 PM PST by dsc (A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.)
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To: Leisler

> There was a time a bunch of young males fighting was just
> broken up and everyone sent on their way, one way or
> another. Now a common young buck fight fest is a full
> employment feast for the security bureaucracy and other
> state organs.

Yes, overreaction by the security brigades is a real problem, and it certainly contributed to this fiasco. That’s a bigger issue than whether the cop meant to shoot the guy, though.


43 posted on 01/07/2009 2:43:28 PM PST by cacoethes_resipisco
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To: LuxMaker

BART PD Chief Gary Gee is on far right of photo (shows him as he appeared many years ago)

44 posted on 01/07/2009 2:43:43 PM PST by gaijin
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To: cacoethes_resipisco
Would you? Always? How about towards the end of a 12 hour shift, during which you had been shot at and while your wife was in labor?

What kind of drugs do you take to make up a feel good liberal line like that!!! Ever thought of taking up fiction writing???

45 posted on 01/07/2009 2:45:44 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: cacoethes_resipisco

I was looking at Tasers and I was amazed that they were, basically, gun colored.

Seeing how under stress one could reach for a Taser, yet because of training react with a gun, the last signal to a mistaken brain( the officers ) would be a strong color, like yellow.

Everything about the Taser and it’s use is gun like, save its effect.

A good Police department would spray paint its Taser. Not going to happen, I suppose.


46 posted on 01/07/2009 2:46:07 PM PST by Leisler (It is always said it is for the children. (Not your children..others...somewhere))
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To: cacoethes_resipisco

We are asking/demanding that human beings, in this case Police, intervene too deeply into common human activity.

The same unreal notions of state perfection that we see in radical environmentalism, 10’s of thousand of Rabbinical hairsplitting laws, happens in the police who are required to, now, basically control everyone to the minutest behaviour.


47 posted on 01/07/2009 2:50:33 PM PST by Leisler (It is always said it is for the children. (Not your children..others...somewhere))
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To: Leisler

> A good Police department would spray paint its Taser. Not
> going to happen, I suppose.

That is an excellent suggestion! I don’t see why they wouldn’t, or why the manufacturer wouldn’t use different colors. I suspect they may not have thought of it.


48 posted on 01/07/2009 2:50:47 PM PST by cacoethes_resipisco
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To: cacoethes_resipisco

The story in the SF Chron said that usually Tasers are stored backwards-facing and carried in a holster on the opposite side of the policeman’s regular carry holster.

Sometimes that doesn’t happen, and they stated that Tasers are in such short supply that officers do not usually carry them, and when they get them they may have a tendency to mistake their gun for thier Taser, as apparently happened in this case.

Ed


49 posted on 01/07/2009 2:51:59 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: SpaceBar

I agree


50 posted on 01/07/2009 2:53:35 PM PST by mefistofelerevised
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To: roofer13
Move along folks,nothing here.Just typical police state behavior.

The BART boxcars are waiting.

51 posted on 01/07/2009 2:53:51 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Sir_Ed

Why would he direct his taser directly at the head?


52 posted on 01/07/2009 2:55:03 PM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light!)
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To: cacoethes_resipisco
If you can't do the work, you shouldn't be carrying a badge.

There is no excuse for this. The holsters are different, deployment is different, and the devices themselves have a radically different feel.

53 posted on 01/07/2009 2:55:21 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Sir_Ed
All the LEOs that I know wear the Taser on the Weak side.

54 posted on 01/07/2009 2:55:46 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: dsc
The penalty for shooting a gangster should be receipt of a coupon for a free box of ammunition.

Nice idea except for that little bitty thing about "innocent until proven guilty", "Rule of Laws, not men", you know archaic and backward things.

After you prove them guilty in a court of law, then you get your free box of Ammo and a cheeseburger

55 posted on 01/07/2009 2:58:34 PM PST by Popman (Dont worry Barney Frank has your ass-ets covered!!!)
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To: cacoethes_resipisco
Would you? Always? How about towards the end of a 12 hour shift, during which you had been shot at and while your wife was in labor?

Words fail me.

56 posted on 01/07/2009 2:58:51 PM PST by PalmettoMason ("an empty limousine pulled up in front of the White House, and Barack Obama got out")
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To: Leisler

I realize there are many different models of tasers and each department will use different models. And I realize that some taser models look like, aim, and activate like pistols.

However that said every taser I have actually seen up close in use by my local officers, and not on a web page, don’t look like pistols, and they use the thumb to activate. Their pepper spray is canistered and also use the thumb (or index finger vertically like spray paint). You don’t confuse either with a pistol.

I can’t remember the last time I used my thumb to activate my sidearm. And that’s another problem with claiming he thought it was a taser and not a pistol.

Point being is the pistol, taser, and spray each are held differently. The two “non-lethal” use the thumb to activate. I can only go by what I’ve seen at my local departments however.


57 posted on 01/07/2009 2:59:02 PM PST by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: cacoethes_resipisco
Would you? Always? How about towards the end of a 12 hour shift, during which you had been shot at and while your wife was in labor?

Not making excuses for the cop.

Who are you trying to kid? That statement is sillier than saying "you're an idiot, but I mean that in a good way."

58 posted on 01/07/2009 3:00:09 PM PST by papertyger
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To: LuxMaker
I don't see what the "Big Deal" is... obviously it was an accident.... accidents happen.
59 posted on 01/07/2009 3:00:52 PM PST by PEACE ENFORCER (One Needs to Have the Capability of Using Deadly Force at Any Moment.....:))
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To: Sir_Ed

If that was the mistake made, the cop deserves time in prison.


60 posted on 01/07/2009 3:00:59 PM PST by Chubby
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