"What's all this hubbub about only natural born citizens can become President of the United States. Citizens born by c-section are just as capable of being President too!"
FWIW, the issue is dead. America may have elected a foreigner to be president, but America has spoken and the courts are not taking the issue up. All you are doing at this point is pissing into the wind. Nobody is going to unseat Obama because he might not be a natural born citizen.
“I also note that the entry for natural-born suggests comparison with the one for native-born which seems to have nothing to do with who ones parents are.”
I don’t see any connection to who one’s parents are in the natural-born definition. Also, I seem to recall reading a passage in the Wong Kim Ark decision (which maintained that a child born on American soil to alien parents was a citizen) that used native-born and natural-born interchangably.
In "natural born citizen" the position, status or character is citizenship. So both definitions simply mean having citizenship "by birth".
Someone that is born a citizen is a "natural born citizen".
One fact is blazingly clear ... 0bama is hiding something by refusing to show his long-form vault BC.
"What's all this hubbub about only natural born citizens can become President of the United States. Citizens born by c-section are just as capable of being President too!"
I browse through every thread about Obamas eligibility, birth certifigate or natural born and compared to other more blase threads I can realistically say I have never seen so many people making roundabout off the wall time wasting comments than on these threads, all they do is post like a serpent eating its tail.
Same questions over and over, they cannot understand any facts no matter how detailed they are, to them the world is flat and any non believer is a heretic.
They must have cue cards with pre planned responses to tie up as many people as they can.
People why fall for it? There are winners and there is losers, they are losers, they will not accept it, we accept the facts because we were diligent enough to individually examine them, the losers rely on facts that are dished out like a daily plate of dog food.
I rarely will post on any of these threads, I won’t waste my time arguing with leftist trolls, if a person wants to creatively argue I suggest getting a username on DU and argue on their own turf, here at FR we are going to be busy organizing a new America.
Patriotic dissent is approved, just don’t get caught.
Then let's look at the rule of law. Show me where the law differentiates between natural born or native born. Show me where the law identifies three classifications of citizenship. Show me that and then we can discuss what the rule of law is in this country.
Found some more on natural born and SCOTUS for those of us interested:
ye olde ‘Supreme Court Reporter’ By Robert Desty, United States Supreme Court, West Publishing Company
http://books.google.com/books?id=q-8GAAAAYAAJ&printsec=titlepage
search for the phrase natural born, and/or download the pdf. Wong Kim Ark is in there among other relevant stuff. Google books is a good project!
Ok, I’m going to start a war here, I know, but since I live in Texas, I think it is high time for us Texans to really suceed from the union, enough of this crap. We will elect our own president that is a NATURAL - NATIVE BORN TEXAN that will follow the constitution.
Thanks. bfl