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Workers Reach a Tipping Point
Portland Tribune ^ | 12/31/2008 | Peter Korn

Posted on 01/07/2009 9:58:14 AM PST by ex-Texan

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Just my personal opinion, but this article is twisted. My thoughts initially were 'Who gives a rat's pitute about the plight of nude dancers _____ ?' Obviously, somebody does. This was a front page article. Will wonders never cease . . . ?

Mary's Club is a watering hole in downtown Portland. It is famous all over the U.S. for it's totally nude dancers. In more prosperous times it has been filled with Japanese tourists and bent locals looking for something 'exotic.' Methinks the author may have been looking for an easy way to pad his expense account. Just joking, people. LOL, LOL ! Local editors would never accept $ 50 in expenses logged up at a nudie bar.

The meat of the article is more interesting:

"Servers suffer as gratuities, and their incomes, plummet with the economy"

I have friends in the restaurant biz. They are all hurting. I went out last evening to a great place I treat myself to regularly. The China Moon. Sometimes I eat there three days a week. Last night it was nearly deserted. Only a few tables had people enjoying fine Asian cuisine. I made it a point to leave a 20% tip.

The whole economy is going into the dumpster. Obama has his work cut out for him. Full scale economic warfare is going on. Nobody wants to address the issue. Not Bush. Not Paulson. Not Bernanke.

Russia vs. U.S. vs. China. Secret wars are going on and we are right in the middle of it. Take a peek here

Later, Alligators . . .

1 posted on 01/07/2009 9:58:16 AM PST by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan

Hey, welcome back. Haven’t seen you much around these parts since you were proved right by the real estate meltdown.


2 posted on 01/07/2009 10:00:31 AM PST by durasell
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To: ex-Texan

“Methinks the author may have been looking for an easy way to pad his expense account. Just joking, people. LOL, LOL ! Local editors would never accept $ 50 in expenses logged up at a nudie bar.”

It’s probably not THAT far-fetched. My boss says back in his days as an outside salesman he did expense at least one lap dance. But it appeared on his expense report as “client entertainment”.


3 posted on 01/07/2009 10:02:24 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I figure the odds be fifty-fifty I just might have somethin' to say)
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To: ex-Texan

In fact, there’s a sign in Mary’s Club that reads, “If you’re watching and not tipping, you’re stealing.”

To that I’d say “if you strip and expect a tip, you’re whoring”!


4 posted on 01/07/2009 10:02:55 AM PST by jurroppi1
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To: ex-Texan
The best example, she says, is hotel housekeepers. Most people know they are supposed to leave money in a hotel room on checkout, but it’s so easily skipped when the service provider is anonymous.

how much do you tip a chambermaid anyway?
5 posted on 01/07/2009 10:05:50 AM PST by Republicus2001
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Obama’s fault.

That feels so good.


6 posted on 01/07/2009 10:07:06 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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‘...But even the regulars are more frequently ordering dinner without a drink, saving money and cutting down on the overall bill — and on Johs’ tip.’
My wife and I adopted two adolescent children from Ukraine in 2006, which makes six for dinner when our college age daughter is home. Ordering water saves ~ $12.00 off the bill for softdrinks or tea, that adds up over time very quickly. I still try to tip 15% minimum but the service has to be there. If we have to ask more than once or wait a long time, that tip % goes down. The percentage of the tip is anchored to a basic level of service expectation.

We do try specifically now to only patronize locally owned restaurants. I want them to be around when this thing ends, and it will end eventually. As far as the chains, they will have to rely on travelers or others not emotionally tied to our area.


7 posted on 01/07/2009 10:09:11 AM PST by OriginalChristian (If you can't get Life right, nothing else you think or say matters....)
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“If you’re watching and not tipping, you’re stealing.”

If they are stealing, call the cops.

This is a lie.

Door charge, $6 beers, it all goes to paying for the show.

8 posted on 01/07/2009 10:10:38 AM PST by weegee (Obamunism, just another word for the policies of a NeoCom.)
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To that I’d say “if you strip and expect a tip, you’re whoring”!

If you work the cash register at a coffee shop chain and have a "tip jar" you are whoring too.

9 posted on 01/07/2009 10:11:53 AM PST by weegee (Obamunism, just another word for the policies of a NeoCom.)
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Well, this explains a lot for a Vegas guy like me. I thought my G-string wasn’t filling up as fast as before because there was something wrong with me. Now I know it’s just the economy. Whew, that’s a relief.


10 posted on 01/07/2009 10:12:08 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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I also try to leave a 20% tip, because I know there are people who stiff their wait staff all the time.

I only tip maids when I have more than a one night stay somewhere, then it’s $ 2 /night.

And if there is a serviceman eating in the dining room, well, they should never be paying for their meal.


11 posted on 01/07/2009 10:12:32 AM PST by exit82 (The Obama Cabinet: There was more brainpower on Gilligan's Island.)
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My thoughts initially were 'Who gives a rat's pitute about the plight of nude dancers _____ ?'

Did you see how she snatched up the tip?...

12 posted on 01/07/2009 10:13:06 AM PST by null and void (Amendment 28: Islam is not recognized as an established religion in the United States. ~ farmer18th)
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Dancers at Mary’s Club and other clubs report that their tips are about half what they were a year or two ago. And tips are the only income the dancers receive. Because they are hired as independent contractors, dancers don’t receive the minimum wage waiters and waitresses get.

At the bottom rung of the strip joint trade, the dancers have to PAY the venue each hour they are there (or that they take off early from their "schedule"). If they get stuck with the hours that no customers come in, the club is still making money off of them.

13 posted on 01/07/2009 10:15:09 AM PST by weegee (Obamunism, just another word for the policies of a NeoCom.)
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To: Republicus2001; MotleyGirl70; Cagey; Mr. Brightside; Gamecock; Taffini; F15Eagle; earlJam
how much do you tip a chambermaid anyway?

A dollar, but the smog strangler says I'm cheap.

Baggage handlers, 50 cents, but for some reason my baggage always has a leia on it when it finally arrives.

14 posted on 01/07/2009 10:15:46 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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I tip about the same — though my bags usually have a tag from Pitcairn Island.


15 posted on 01/07/2009 10:18:09 AM PST by durasell
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To: durasell; Travis McGee; M. Espinola; TigerLikesRooster; All; Calpernia
Haven’t seen you much around these parts since you were proved right by the real estate meltdown . . .

Thanks for your comment durasell. But i grew weary of all the sniping from idiots up to no good. Not the whole world knows the truth. Sitting on the sidelines is very entertaining at times. No need for me to blow my own horn.

Now my latest campaign is to educate the masses about the economic war going on out there. Russia is bullying the EU with oil and natural gas. The U.S. is playing hardball with Putin via oil prices. The Russkie stock market is collapsing and has been going downhill rapidly. China is in a mess because people no longer want to buy garbage made in Asia. Especially food sabotaged by organized crime and packaged by slave labor. Americans are caught right in the middle of everything.

And our 'leaders' remain silent. They seem to be saying: 'Nothing to see here. Time to move on.'

16 posted on 01/07/2009 10:21:58 AM PST by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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In fact, there’s a sign in Mary’s Club that reads, “If you’re watching and not tipping, you’re stealing.”


Gee...what is the cover charge at the door for? Most of these girls make their $$ on the one-on-one dances, if you know what I mean. Dancing up front is just advertising for that.

I don’t really have a great deal of sympathy for these girls. On the good shifts, they can make a lot of $$. They should learn to save for a rainy day.


17 posted on 01/07/2009 10:22:46 AM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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Seems like global business as usual. Been going on since Spain, England and Holland decided big ships were a good idea.


18 posted on 01/07/2009 10:24:32 AM PST by durasell
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To: exit82
I only tip maids when I have more than a one night stay somewhere, then it’s $ 2 /night.

I only tip the room-service maids if they do a decent job. There was once a day when gratuity meant thanks for rendering *good* service.
19 posted on 01/07/2009 10:26:51 AM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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I usually leave 3-5 bucks a day...typically closer to 5...and pay at the end of the stay.


20 posted on 01/07/2009 10:29:03 AM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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