"Are you some sort of a comedian?"
Posted on 01/04/2009 6:15:32 PM PST by gondramB
Do you actually believe that there have been more celebrity Republicans elected to office than Democrats?
Wow!
You are misinformed.
If I was from MN so be so ashamed to say so after they elected that freak a senator.
Minnesota Canvassing Board Certifies Al Franken Victory
in U.S. Senate Race Recount
Sorry, Minnesota...you're screwed!
It’s not a matter of misinformation, or which party can lay claim to more celebrities-turned-politicians than the other.
The original author of the statement to which I replied made the claim that Democrats “want to be ruled by celebrities.” I merely pointed out (albeit in a sarcastic manner) that the Republican party has a rich tradition of Hollywood/celebrity types being elected to office as well, which is a fact that doesn’t play into his stereotype.
But since you mentioned it, how about we do make a list of celebrities that were elected as Democrats - I’ll give you the first one: Senator Al Franken (D-MN)!
Btw, I would like to thank the moderator of this board for posting my comments. I’m a noob to this site, and after the disclaimer I was faced with at registration, I wasn’t sure if that was going to happen. Thank you, and I look forward to some thought-provoking political discussion in the future.
Dear Friend,
We recommend reading this editorial in today’s Wall Street Journal, which lays out a number of the major concerns made by our campaign regarding several key issues that have arisen in the Senate recount process. We will be back in touch later today with an update on the state of play here in Minnesota after action by the Minnesota State Canvassing Board is completed this afternoon.
Thanks,
Team Coleman
Waiting right here for the next revelation from Norm. Will post later.......
I'm a Texan!
I lived there for almost 3 weeks.
I'm just on a 48 year visit in Minnesoooota. ~snort
I don’t see the same sense of worship of celebrity from the right. I was commenting on an overall attitude but yeah, Reagan, Al Franken - great comparison!
The latest from Coleman.....Begging for money....
Dear Supporter,
As you may have read or heard by now, today the Minnesota State Canvassing Board met and made their determination in the U.S. Senate Recount, effectively proving that the only declaration coming today is one of an inaccurate count.
There are a number of problems with the total certified today, including double counted votes, over 650 potentially wrongly rejected absentee votes, resulting in the disenfranchising of Minnesota voters and jeopardizing the integrity of Minnesota’s election system.
Harry Reid and national Democrats have now publicly said they will try to seat Al Franken tomorrow when the 111th Congress convenes and new members are sworn in. This action, the very first action of the 111th Congress and the new Democrat leadership that campaigned on a theme of bipartisanship, will result in an historic political power play done at the behest of Al Franken. Minnesotans have the right to elect their own elected officials, just like every other state in the country, and this stunning move by Al Franken and Harry Reid strips Minnesotans of that right.
Please click here to help us continue to fight to ensure that every valid vote counts.
Coleman for Senate counsel Tony Trimble made the following statement this afternoon, raising the serious concerns our campaign has raised consistently during the recount process, and signaling our intent to file an election contest within the next 24 hours:
The actions today by the Canvassing Board are but the first step in what, unfortunately, will now have to be a longer process. This process isn’t at the end; it is now just at the beginning.
We will contest the results of the Canvassing Board — otherwise, literally millions of Minnesotans will be disenfranchised.
While we appreciate the effort of this board to do the work, the reality is that any certification of vote totals at this point is only preliminary. As this Canvassing Board has recognized, there still exist serious problems with inconsistencies in the administrative recount, and therefore in the validity and reliability of the numbers certified today.
There can be no count that is accurate or valid when 654 potentially valid absentee votes remain disenfranchised and when some votes are counted twice - leading to a violation of one of the most sacred principles of our constitution - “One person, One vote.”
And, there can be no justification to report out a total when 133 votes were included in a count where there are not ballots to support them. Or when a batch of votes were not counted on Election Night, but were miraculously “found” during the recount and included.
If the Canvassing Board had resolved all these issues, then the process might be completed. But the Board has deferred the resolution of those issues for the contest phase provided for in Minnesota law.
Since the process is far from complete, there can be no confidence in the current results of the United States Senate Recount, and we will file a contest within the next 24 hours to promptly correct those problems and inaccuracies. The Supreme Court ruling today also emphasizes that that’s what we must do to provide an accurate count for this election.
Senator Coleman is adamant that we not wait a moment longer than necessary to ensure that the election be completed with accuracy and validity - and most importantly, without disenfranchising Minnesota voters or having a cloud remain over the results.
The utter lack of uniformity in the treatment of rejected absentee ballots, resulting in the disenfranchising of voters, is perhaps the most troublesome aspect of the recount.
Similar ballots were treated differently by different counties. This creates an Equal Protection violation that fatally taints any result that includes these ballots.
This was precisely what the Minnesota Supreme Court order said to avoid.
Unfortunately, with this announcement today, numerous Minnesotans will be wrongly disenfranchised because their votes are not counted. Mr. Franken and his campaign for purely political reasons no longer want to “count all the votes”.
And, it is with great disappointment that we’ve seen senior members of the Secretary of State’s Office contributing to the process being broken.
When senior members of the Secretary of State’s office, charged with ensuring a fair and balanced process, engage in acts which undermine that neutrality, all of us must be concerned.
The fact is the Canvassing Board’s current totals are invalid and unreliable because:
· Original and duplicate ballots have been double counted - even members of the Canvassing Board acknowledge this is a serious issue, yet nothing was resolved - instead, double counted votes were simply added to their recount totals.
· Newly discovered ballots, which appeared for the first time during the recount and are included in the Canvassing Board totals without proper reconciliation to the number of voters signed into the precincts on Election Day.
· Missing ballots supposedly tallied on election night that could not be found during the recount process are included in the Canvassing Board count contrary to Minnesota precedent.
· And again, an inconsistent treatment of challenged ballots - an inconsistent treatment of wrongfully rejected absentee ballots - and an inconsistent treatment of the campaign by the very office charged with coordinating this recount simply results in a process that is broken.
The recount was supposed to be a recount - fair and reasoned - and one that would retain the credibility of the outcome of this election.
However, it ceased being that the day that duplicate ballots and “missing ballots” were included in the count, and simply became more and more broken each and every day.
We had hoped that the board would refrain from reporting out with unanimity a recount total today. Since that did not happen, we will file an election contest within the next 24 hours.
It will be based upon the issues I have outlined, as well as the lack of inclusion of 654 additional ballots that we believe should be a part of this recount and the very serious issue of included double counted votes that disenfranchises Minnesotans.
Our goal and obligation should be to get an accurate and valid vote as quickly as possible, and that is our reason for acting with urgency. Minnesotans ought to be able to expect that an accurate and valid recount would have ensured two United States Senators from Minnesota tomorrow. However, because the process is broken that will not happen.
We strongly believe that every valid vote must be counted. We have called for that principle to be the basis of this entire recount process, and we will not stop now. We firmly believe that once that happens, just like on election night, Norm Coleman will have the most votes in this close race, and be re-elected to the United States Senate. We know- all too well- that it has been a long road, and we value your friendship, advice and support throughout the campaign and recount.
We need your continued help as we move forward with an election contest to ensure the sanctity of Minnesota’s election process. Please click here to continue supporting our efforts, and to help us maintain a strong, knowledgeable and skilled team carrying this effort forward.
"Are you some sort of a comedian?"
You are an honorary Texan too...that counts!
Just the usual “revelation”!
Money might help, but having balls to fight is another thing.
Is Coleman up to that?
At this point, we’re devolving to an issue of semantics - I, nor any of the liberals I know, “worship” celebrities. I personally could care less about what Sean Penn or Susan Sarandon has to say (though I have no problem with them using their fame as a platform). So I can’t at all agree with your perception of liberals regarding the celebrity issue. Are an overwhelming majority of actors, musicians, etc. liberal in their ideology? Absolutely. But that by no means translates to a deification of the celebrity culture by liberals. I live and work in a liberal town for mostly liberal types, and I can honestly tell you that only one of them reads magazines like People or Entertainment Weekly. Based on my experiences, the premise of your initial comment is faulty at best.
You are, however, correct about the Reagan/Franken analogy: both were poor actors that found a career in politics. And if you want to talk about Ronald Reagan and the worshiping of public figures, we can do that too, but that’s an argument you’re not going to win. Cheers!
Well, ya need ta git yer shaggy self on down to these here
parts ta renoo yer citizenship, MN BRAT! *grin*
We actually let Republicans live in these here parts. Really!
Actually out in the open and EVERYTHING???
LOL!
Actually out in the open and EVERYTHING???
LOL!
I don't care who you are...that right there is FUNNY!!
I love your handle. I have 3 cats and a dog as well. I also have fish and plants. Actually they are all my wife’s.
To answer your response, I would say that there is something called overreaching. FDR tried to pack the Supreme Court and failed. I believe the public was starting to understand FDR was overreaching. If it wasn’t for the war, he probably would have lost to Wilkie.
I think the entire Democrat party is built on a house of cards with Obama being the Ace. His persona is built heavily on the favorable media, because he lacks consistent ideas. The Democrat party also lacks any consistent ideas that resonate. Their whole platform could fall like a house of cards if the media should turn against them. It’s not likely, but could happen if their arrogance takes hold.
At the same time, the GOP lacks vision and may not have the ability to take advantage. It will be an infuriating decade where opportunity after opportunity will be missed because the Republicans lack vision, unity and leadership.
Hee-hee!
But very true! We can actually have Republican bumper stickers on our cars and not get them set on fire! :D
Come on doooowwwwwnnnn!!!
Alas, all 3 cats and the dog are gone up to Pet Heaven and I really hope Heaven is filled with our 4-legged loved ones that will come to greet us with our 2 legged loved ones.
I just have one kitty now - a little imp I call Smoky.
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