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Obama Considers Major Expansion in Jobless Aid
New York Times ^ | January 3, 2009 | Jackie Calmes

Posted on 01/04/2009 6:46:52 AM PST by reaganaut1

CHICAGO — President-elect Barack Obama and Congressional Democrats are considering major expansions of government-assisted health care insurance and unemployment compensation as they begin intensive work this week on a two-year economic recovery package.

One proposal, as described by Democratic advisers, would extend unemployment compensation to part-time workers, an idea that Congressional Republicans have blocked in the past.

Other policy changes would subsidize employers’ expenses for temporarily continuing health insurance coverage to laid-off and retired workers and their dependents, as mandated under a 22-year-old federal law known as Cobra, and allow workers who lose jobs that did not come with insurance benefits to be eligible, for the first time, to apply for Medicaid coverage.

The proposals indicate the sorts of potentially long-range changes that Mr. Obama intends to push in his promised American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan, as he named it in his weekly Saturday address on the radio and YouTube. They will be combined with one-time measures that are more typical of federal stimulus packages to jump-start a weak economy, like spending for roads and other job-creating public works projects.

As the economy worsened in the weeks after Mr. Obama’s election, advisers and Congressional leaders suggested that a stimulus plan would be ready by the new year for House votes this week. But the House is not expected to vote until next week at the earliest, which will most likely push final action into February, Democratic aides said.

The aides said delays were probably inevitable given the holiday interruptions, the big ambitions of the undertaking and internal tensions over the plan’s components and their costs.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bho2008; bhoeconomy; healthinsurance; joblessbenefits; medicaid; obama; obamatransitionfile; unemployment
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Do part-time workers or their employers currently pay in to the unemployment insurance system? If they don't, I don't think laid off part-time workers should collect benefits. Many part-time jobs are inherently temporary, for example college students working part-time during the school year (and going home for the summer). How would the government avoid paying unemployment benefits for people in jobs that were never intended to be permanent?

By increasing benefits for the unemployed, Obama will increase the number of people who stay unemployed.

1 posted on 01/04/2009 6:46:52 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1
Absolutely everything this man talks about requires the spending of money we don't have. You can always spot people who've made their way in life using OPM (other people's money), they have no concept of having to have actually produced something to get that money.

I don't know how long we will be able to sail along printing money, or borrowing it from future generations, but the end has got to be near. I figure that's the only thing that will stop Obama and his minions.

2 posted on 01/04/2009 6:51:08 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: reaganaut1

That’s it! I’m going to retire, then take unemployment to collect the difference between retirement pay and my present pay.


3 posted on 01/04/2009 6:51:51 AM PST by MuttTheHoople
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The longer, and more you provide for people who aren’t working, the longer it’s going to take for them to find work.

Makes perfect sense to me!


4 posted on 01/04/2009 6:52:38 AM PST by KoRn
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To: reaganaut1
“allow workers who lose jobs that did not come with insurance benefits to be eligible, for the first time, to apply for Medicaid coverage.”

Another reason not to find new work. It's rather insidious how Zero and his minions are going about this. They're using this downturn as a back door to socialism in ways no one would imagine in better economic times. As I've stated in prior posts, once a government program is expanded it becomes next to politically impossible to get rid of due to the built in constituency it develops. Zero knows this all to well. This notion of a “two year program” is first degree BS.

5 posted on 01/04/2009 6:54:31 AM PST by RU88 (The false messiah can not change water into wine any more than he can get unity from diversity.)
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To: KoRn

Your, but see, you live in the REAL world of reality. Politicans who live in the clouds think if you give people $$ it will stimulate them to work.


6 posted on 01/04/2009 6:55:26 AM PST by rovenstinez (,)
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To: reaganaut1

Paying people to stay home. Exactly what brought down the auto companies. He wants to bring that success to all of America.

God help us.


7 posted on 01/04/2009 6:56:00 AM PST by Carley
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To: KoRn
The longer, and more you provide for people who aren’t working, the longer it’s going to take for them to find work.

Makes perfect sense to me!


I know you jest but to socialists it does make sense because then the people will be more dependent on the federal government for their existence thereby giving socialists more power to control the masses.
8 posted on 01/04/2009 6:59:49 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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By increasing benefits for the unemployed, Obama will increase the number of people who stay unemployed.

THEREBY ENSURING A ROCK-SOLID VOTING BLOC!!!!!!!

9 posted on 01/04/2009 7:00:04 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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I thought 0bambi was going to create (or "save") 3 million jobs....

And what about the civilian defence force funded at Pentagon levels....?

10 posted on 01/04/2009 7:01:40 AM PST by spokeshave (0bambi wants to kill babies and raise taxes, Sarah wants to raise babies and kill taxes)
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The biggest drain on the unemployment funds in most states is that employers use it for vacation pay.

The employers only pay half and the state pays the other half. The employer can give a months vacation, or so,and only have to pay for two weeks of it.

The employee doesn't get as much money but they like the extended vacation, and they aren't even required to look for work.

In Michigan they don't even have to go to an unemployment office. Just call an automated phone line and the checks come in the mail!

11 posted on 01/04/2009 7:05:35 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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Oh, perfect! Instead of working to increase the number of jobs available via tax cuts on business and personal income, let’s give away some more of my money to make it easier not to work. When are you going to take an Econ 101 course, you airhead...?


12 posted on 01/04/2009 7:17:38 AM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

I’m going to retire, then take unemployment to collect the difference between retirement pay and my present pay.


That was my thought. Get myself laid off and have an eight year vacation (the amount of time Obama is in office). Rumor is that he will take care of me by paying my mortgage and filling up my gas tank. Why not ride this crazy plane until it crashes?


13 posted on 01/04/2009 7:17:41 AM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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Someone should find out which company makes ink for the govt. printing presses that print the money. I think their stock is about to shoot up.


14 posted on 01/04/2009 7:19:15 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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Democrats are wary of slowing down the economic stimulus by provoking the opposition of Republicans, who have warned in recent days that the package must be neither excessive nor rushed. They are also fielding concerns from fiscally conservative Democrats.

This just goes to show you that we have no representation.

Republicans, who have warned in recent days that the package must be neither excessive nor rushed.

How about some of these crooks just saying NO to all of this crap? How about telling them NO! If you want more cash for something you must close the door on any and all other hand outs needed to fund your next insane plan. Then after getting that message passed we would have to keep eliminating hand out after hand out until the private sector took care of just about everything. Then all the criminal mobsters would not have our money to tell us what we should do with it.

We need to scream this to all of these jerks until they get it and hopefully before it’s too late.


15 posted on 01/04/2009 7:27:54 AM PST by zootallure
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To: Beagle8U
In Michigan they don't even have to go to an unemployment office. Just call an automated phone line and the checks come in the mail!

I got out of the Navy years ago and was eligible for unemployment. Back then, you at least had to go through the motions of looking for a job in order to collect. I decided I was too lazy to leech off the taxpayers so I leeched off mom and dad for a couple of months until school started..

16 posted on 01/04/2009 7:37:01 AM PST by EVO X
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Obama Considers Major Increase in Government-Dependent Class
17 posted on 01/04/2009 7:44:07 AM PST by clintonh8r (For the first time in my life I'm ashamed of my country.)
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To: reaganaut1
Why doesn't Obama just compensate all of the people who have lost work due to the criminals from Mexico being given a free pass to stand on corners, work and be paid illegally.
19 posted on 01/04/2009 7:55:03 AM PST by jetson
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I’m thinking I should just take all my money and the deed to my house and give it to the next bum I find passed out on the street. It will save Obama the trouble of having to be the middle man on the transaction.


20 posted on 01/04/2009 7:56:31 AM PST by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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