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Las Vegas Review-Journal ^ | 04 jan 09

Posted on 01/04/2009 6:40:12 AM PST by rellimpank

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1 posted on 01/04/2009 6:40:12 AM PST by rellimpank
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2 posted on 01/04/2009 6:43:35 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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No cocaine was found in the home, and it initially appeared the charges filed against Mr. Dozier -- attempted murder and possession of a controlled substance, to wit marijuana -- did not include the alleged cocaine trafficking that supposedly prompted the raid.

So the raid itself instigated a crime more serious than that cited on the arrest warrant.

Think about the import of that for a moment, before you reflexively support the cops on this one.

There WAS no crime until the police broke in in the middle of the night.

Then suddenly the guy is facing 3 million dollars bail.

What would YOU do if you heard someone smashing your door down in the middle of the night?

I think if it turns out that he really did call 911, then all charges should be dropped.

3 posted on 01/04/2009 6:45:21 AM PST by samtheman
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... and opened fire to break the lock off the metal front door.

So, someone is outside his house ... SHOOTING to break open the suspect's front door ... and he's in trouble for returning fire.

Sorry, but shooting open the front door is piss poor procedure on the part of the LV Police Department ... extremely piss poor.

4 posted on 01/04/2009 6:45:23 AM PST by tx_eggman (I own two rare photos. Houdini as he locks his keys in his car and Norman Rockwell beating a child.)
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Dialing 911 constitutes reasonable doubt..IMHO


5 posted on 01/04/2009 6:45:31 AM PST by Bobalu (McCain has been proven to be the rino flop I always thought he was.)
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Considering the kind of emotions that flow when one is under gunfire -- especially when three officers have been hit -- it would be more appropriate to honor the courage and restraint it took for officers to hold their fire and take a suspect into custody, substantially uninjured.

Still, if these people allow any emotions at all, they should be removed from active duty. If they want to continue shooting down doors when there are small children inside the house, this will require extraordinary measures and standards. One coke dealer is not that important.

6 posted on 01/04/2009 6:46:00 AM PST by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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How do I get on the jury?


7 posted on 01/04/2009 6:47:56 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for Necro-Americans.)
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This is so screwed up. Get a search warrant, and an arrest warrant, wait until the guy is leaving the house. Arrest him on his way to work, or to the store. Then search his house. Don’t start shooting at the house on a Sunday night! This is sooo stooopid!


8 posted on 01/04/2009 6:53:37 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing! I'm a doctor, and I won't touch that thing!)
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Why do they go to homes in the dead of night? Why not just wait ‘til the subject leaves the house for work (or whatever) and snatch him while he’s commuting or going about his business? A little surveillance and you know when the house is unoccupied. Take your search warrant in when the house has been vacated.


9 posted on 01/04/2009 6:54:53 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Live your principles. Don't just type them here.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

For one thing, you have to live in Nevada. I used to. I don’t anymore. If I still did, I would to be on the jury for this case (if it comes to trial) and then, once on, I would do my level-headed best to sort through all the claims and counter-claims and render a just verdict.

Right now, it’s not really possible to know much of the facts.

One thing I’m sure of, however, these night-time police raids should be highly circumscribed and used only in EXTREME circumstances.

Selling a bit of cocaine to some undercovers does NOT warrant this type of home invasion.

Why not just arrest him while he’s making the sale?


10 posted on 01/04/2009 6:56:27 AM PST by samtheman
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Why do they go to homes in the dead of night? Why not just wait ‘til the subject leaves the house for work (or whatever) and snatch him while he’s commuting or going about his business? A little surveillance and you know when the house is unoccupied. Take your search warrant in when the house has been vacated.
Because they watch too much TV and they all want to be freaking rock-star cop-show heroes?
11 posted on 01/04/2009 6:57:32 AM PST by samtheman
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For one thing, you have to live in Nevada.

I stayed at the Luxor once, does that count?

12 posted on 01/04/2009 6:58:38 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for Necro-Americans.)
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If this ever goes to trial I think he will be acquitted. In Nevada a shooting is good if in the mind of the shooter they were convinced they were being attacked. And if your home is being invaded then you damn sure have a right to start shooting. Let's wait and see what the adults say after the review.
13 posted on 01/04/2009 6:59:03 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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...Why do they go to homes in the dead of night...

Why does a dog lick his own balls? Because he can.

It's the militarization of the police that causes this mindset. I wonder how much training they receive on citizen's Constitutional rights?

14 posted on 01/04/2009 7:03:49 AM PST by FReepaholic (Diversity = .45 .357 .223 .38 ...)
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Now there’s an idea! Come to Vegas. We’ll throw in some free pulls on the mega-slot machine AND you get to sit on a local jury!

Could boost tourism.


15 posted on 01/04/2009 7:03:51 AM PST by samtheman
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And if your home is being invaded then you damn sure have a right to start shooting.
And the cops know that, which is why they came with a SWAT team.

Of course, there WERE other alternatives. But that would require actual THOUGHT.

16 posted on 01/04/2009 7:07:03 AM PST by samtheman
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Why do they go to homes in the dead of night?

Come on, how else are they going to have a reason to put on their knee pads and cool SWAT gear?

17 posted on 01/04/2009 7:08:58 AM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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I’ve never heard of shooting the door locks as standard proceedure.
I would also be protecting my home if someone tried this.


18 posted on 01/04/2009 7:09:11 AM PST by Colvin (Harry Reid is a sap sucking idiot.)
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Can I vote against Dirty Harry, too? I’d throw in a trip to Hoover Dam and the Grand Canyon for that.


19 posted on 01/04/2009 7:12:03 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for Necro-Americans.)
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Jack booted thug alert.

was Lon Horiuci there to shoot any baby holding women to death?


20 posted on 01/04/2009 7:12:09 AM PST by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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