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To: bruinbirdman
Hamas, Islamists -— such heroes!

They talk of war....they threaten war....they commit cowardly acts of terrorism....they launch rockets from the safety of their family's neighborhoods......they used their own families as human shields......they claim to desire death.....HOWEVER, once the hated Jews come to do battle — the cowardly, goat humping, woman killing, butt humping cockroach bastards climb into a hole and allow THEIR FAMIES to suffer the consequences of their phony warrior rhetoric and cowardly actions...

The myth of the Islamic Warrior is just that — a myth.
If he isn't pumped full of drugs, stimulants or Koranic hate — he is hiding underground....

18 posted on 01/03/2009 9:25:19 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

Drop in a buch of hungry wild boars to look for them.


19 posted on 01/03/2009 9:28:06 PM PST by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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To: river rat

I hope the IDF have a shoot on sight - take no prisoners policy on this one . There is no ‘intel’ that they need , just good body counts . No more pal pimps to have to take care of in Israeli jails for years to come . Just shoot um and let them lay . On to the next....


20 posted on 01/03/2009 9:30:13 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: river rat

Yep, what you said. And oh yeah, for all that digging they could have struck oil by now and not be ..ahhh..”impoverished refugees”.


25 posted on 01/03/2009 9:53:38 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: river rat
“If he isn't pumped full of drugs, stimulants or Koranic hate — he is hiding underground”

Not hiding from fear, playing it smart. Vietnamese, Chinese, Russians, Germans, Romanians, Japanese, (etc) in fact MOST militaries have used the underground to survive during conflict. Heck the USA made miles of underground bases to survive conflict! During the revolutionary war our army had underground "forts". Food, powder, weapons, sleeping quarters, all underground. There is still one that was shown on the history channel. Russia right now still has HUGE underground bases and tunnels. Do you think we have less?

So Hamas is not being stupid or chicken. But mostly they will likely survive. As history has shown it is VERY difficult to root them out. Islamics are just a horrible death cult, but Hamas is not necessarily being stupid or cowardly. Just imitating all the other successful and occasionally unsuccessful armies in history around the world.

As we saw in Afghanistan, you can get your enemy when he goes underground, but you need to be smarter and need lots of the right weaponry. Unless Israel has not learned from all of history, they probably know this too. In the last conflict Hezbollah survived and inflicted casualties on the Israeli's due to their tunnels. The IDF probably learned and hopefully has made contingencies to deal with the tunnels in this conflict.

The next few days should show if they are able to wrap this up. If not it means the wrong side learned from the last conflict. Oh, and carpet bombing Gaza will probably do very little to get the leaders. During Vietnam we carpet bombed nearly all of Vietnam (north and south) and Cambodia. Same in Germany during WWII! Basically it has been found and seen (on TV no less) it was a waste of explosives and steel and we did little to harm them.

Until the IDF goes in and gets them, or seals them in (ALL ENTRANCES AND EXITS, or drives them out, or deep bunker busters them (very hard to do accurately), little will happen to end their miserable, evil lives. It didn't cause major degradation to the VC’s capabilities. Remember, one article said there are tunnels to Egypt to escape, and unless they got a branch of the tunnel before it reaches Egypt, some have already escaped.

As much as I hate to tell you all, Hamas did not build the tunnels just to hide, but also like every other army around the world, to have a chance to fight another day. The IDF’s determination and smarts will show if they are able to get them despite the tunnels. I have some hope because if I remember, here on FR the was a post that the Israeli's had asked us for earth peneatrators. Hopefully we gave them some or more likely the the technology to make their own.

In any event it will probably NOT be fully effective or quick.

32 posted on 01/03/2009 11:31:31 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and may have doomed us for a generation or more.)
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