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Virginia legislation would reject national identification program
Pilot Online ^ | January 2, 2009 | DENA POTTER

Posted on 01/02/2009 8:37:18 PM PST by Mikey

RICHMOND

Some legislators want Virginia to join the growing chorus of states that have defied the federal government by refusing to participate in a national identification program billed as a way to fight terrorism and identity theft.

Two pieces of legislation for consideration when lawmakers return to Richmond on Jan. 14 call for Virginia to ignore the federal mandate to come into compliance with the Real ID Act by the beginning of next year.

Similar bills went nowhere last year, but supporters say the looming deadline gives the issue new urgency.

"Basically, this statute that I put in is one to let the feds know that, one, the way you're going about this we have problems with, and two, if you intend to enforce this, we intend to challenge it," said Del. Robert G. Marshall, R-Prince William and one of the sponsors.

Since the law's enactment in 2005, at least 42 states have considered anti-Real ID legislation, and more than half have passed measures either forbidding their states from participating or urging Congress to amend or repeal the law.

At least five states have gone the other direction, passing bills bringing their programs into compliance.

Critics say they expect other states to join Virginia in 2009 to fight against Real ID.

The program was born of the commission that looked into the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. It recommended that the U.S. improve its system of issuing identification documents because the hijackers had numerous licenses and state IDs. Congress approved legislation requiring states to issue licenses and ID cards that meet certain security standards.

The new IDs will be required for federal purposes, such as boarding an airplane or entering a federal building. Other federal identification, including passports and military IDs, also will be accepted.

(Excerpt) Read more at hamptonroads.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 1984; bigbrother; governmentterrorism; orwell; realidact
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To: angkor
I am 100 percent certain that most local Registrars in NY can provide you with your BC for a nominal fee and usually with walk-in service.

That's the key... "With walk in service." I'm 1400 miles away, and have to do it "long distance." Unless I'm there in person, they insist that I have to go through the service.

Mark

21 posted on 01/03/2009 6:57:47 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: servantboy777
For instance, placing someone into a senate seat just because that person holds a name such as Kennedy, Clinton, Rockefeller or whatever.

By rights,Those names should be reason enough to prevent them from running for public office.All three have been run in the dirt for so long.I hope[wishful thinking] Caroline Kennedy gets turned down before Chappaquidik Ted bites the big one so he could see the Kennedy legacy finally going down the toilet.That way he could go to his grave agonizing over the fact that America is finally starting to come to their senses by finally rejecting their BS and may have a chance to become a great nation once again.

22 posted on 01/03/2009 7:00:40 AM PST by Uncle Meat
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To: Uncle Meat
>>agonizing over the fact that America is finally starting to come to their senses by finally rejecting their BS”

Agreed, but then there's Barry Soetoro. At least half of the voting populace cast their votes for Obama.

Notta good sign.

23 posted on 01/03/2009 7:12:13 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: P8riot

How true.


24 posted on 01/03/2009 7:29:56 AM PST by Mikey (Freedom isn't free, but slavery is.)
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To: servantboy777

One quarter of those votes were stuffed by Acorn,illegal aliens,dead people,covicted felons and a quarter were people that were brained washed by the media who many will be soon wondering what they have done.The other half are blacks who voted because he’s part black and liberals who vote only on the party line and think anybody’s better than a Republican.


25 posted on 01/03/2009 7:31:20 AM PST by Uncle Meat
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To: MarkL

Try the dept of Commerce in Gary Ind.


26 posted on 01/03/2009 7:36:32 AM PST by Mikey (Freedom isn't free, but slavery is.)
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To: servantboy777
I agree 100%.

The master has become the servant. The once servant has become the master.

And the sheeple continue to rejoice in their captivity. Not realizing a gilded cage is STILL a cage.

I cringe every time I hear someone say "the government ought to do something."

27 posted on 01/03/2009 7:42:51 AM PST by Mikey (Freedom isn't free, but slavery is.)
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To: MarkL

Well I just checked a couple localities in NY (both of my parents were born there) and they do in fact provide walk-in AND mail service, for $10.00.

The third-party service offered by NY State gov is a completely different and more expensive source.

Have you checked the web site for the city/town/county in which you were born, and where your birth was officially registered?


28 posted on 01/03/2009 7:49:00 AM PST by angkor ("All you could hope for ...in the world's most august deliberative body." - Baldwin on Franken)
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To: servantboy777

>>>>>>At least half of the voting populace cast their votes for Obama.<<<<<<

IMO our fellow citizens have a long and glorious history of voting for fraudsters, charlatans, and brigands.


29 posted on 01/03/2009 8:01:43 AM PST by angkor ("All you could hope for ...in the world's most august deliberative body." - Baldwin on Franken)
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To: Vaduz

No, it isn’t because other than kind of looking the age you are suppose to be, the SS# doesn’t prove your identity.


30 posted on 01/03/2009 9:31:54 AM PST by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: angkor

I tried calling both the county (Westchester) and the city (Yonkers) and was told that I had to go through the state agency.

It doesn’t matter at this point. I needed it. I had to get it, so I wound up paying for it.

Mark


31 posted on 01/03/2009 9:33:12 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Mikey
Listen, I know you're a good guy and all, but you aren't getting it and you come across to me a little like the 911 truther people.

1) While you can reduce illegal immigration at the border, you can't eliminate it. Really, with a few easy steps, you can end economic immigration without a fence at all - just by doing some interior enforcement to deny illegals the ability to get a job or to get public services. Pat Buchanan got this right. But this is only feasible if the enforcement agencies can identify WHO YOU ARE.

2) Suggesting this will lead to putting chips into people is what troubles me most about your comments. You don't NEED to put a chip on a person because each person already has several 'chips.' Finger prints, retinas, DNA, etc.

3) Be it identity theft or legal status, there needs to be an absolute way to identify that you are who you say you are.

4) Remember, I said an 'open source' multi-biometric database. Making it open sourced will prevent abuse of the system and will also allow the brightest minds to be able to identify flaws in the system.

32 posted on 01/03/2009 11:15:02 AM PST by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: MarkL

http://www.cityofyonkers.com/Index.aspx?page=50


33 posted on 01/03/2009 12:54:32 PM PST by angkor ("All you could hope for ...in the world's most august deliberative body." - Baldwin on Franken)
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