That’s what appears to be happening. That’s not to say that there are not people who are “convinced” that this is so. It’s just that the Dark Socrates methodology is designed to “show up” how stupid some people can be in believing anything, no matter if there is proof or not, or even fake proof.
I understand the method, and I believe there are Obamites out there egging people on to make them appear stupid. That does not mean he is not a Natural Born Citizen
I don't need to be "convinced" of anything. Barack Obama was born to a NON-CITIZEN parent. Therefore, he is not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
My biggest gripe with the Birth Certificate is that everyone on this board has at some time in their life had to present theirs to be considered to drive, go to school or get a job. Why is the President of the United States of America not held to that same standard as us peons. He will have the NUKE CODES.
Worse, as president he has the ability to declassify the names, addresses and phone numbers of every single intel source the US has anywhere in the world.
You said — “I understand the method, and I believe there are Obamites out there egging people on to make them appear stupid. That does not mean he is not a Natural Born Citizen.”
Well..., that’s the big thing, you see. I know that’s the issue that is being raised, but that’s as far as it seems to go — just “raising” the issue — and nothing happens after that. I see a lot of speculation, raising the issue and saying that a person can’t be President if they are not natural-born — but Obama keeps marching ahead to the inauguration date. That’s why I’ve wondered if people would still be on this issue when Obama starts building his Presidential Library...
It would be different if anyone had proof, other than statements. That would be proof that was accepted and determined to be true by a court.
And since that hasn’t happened, I don’t have anything to really “grab a hold of” to actually make a pronouncement that he is or is not qualified. I simply don’t know for sure and I haven’t found anyone else that knows for sure one way or another. I’ve only found that people are “convinced in themselves” that such and such is the case.
That’s also why I’ve said that this process for vetting a candidate is defective. Even Berg, himself has said the same thing and has said that there are no laws requiring the proof that he wants to get. That’s from Berg who has his case at the Supreme Court.
That means that it’s necessary to get state laws on the books to make sure the vetting process goes exactly like people want it to.
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You said — “I don’t need to be “convinced” of anything. Barack Obama was born to a NON-CITIZEN parent. Therefore, he is not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.”
I didn’t mean to indicate that you needed to be convinced — but rather — that you and others *are* convinced. And from the way I see it, a lot of people *are* convinced — from an absence of anything verifying it one way or another. I’m not saying that there are not a lot of suspicions, but I’m not convinced on the basis of suspicions. And I would say that courts won’t be persuaded either on the basis of suspicions.
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And then you said — “My biggest gripe with the Birth Certificate is that everyone on this board has at some time in their life had to present theirs to be considered to drive, go to school or get a job. Why is the President of the United States of America not held to that same standard as us peons. He will have the NUKE CODES.”
Basically that’s because — as Berg has already stated in his court papers — there is no law that requires that kind of process to be done. That’s why... Berg already has the answer for you.
My biggest gripe with the birth certificate is that every on this board has had to present theirs to be considered to drive,go to school or get a job. Why is the (potential)President of the US not being held to that same standard as us peons. He will have the NUKE CODES.
Great stuff here and there are several answers.
The first that comes to mind is the white guilt thing that the entire election has been about. Axelrod very slickly and early on made the election about race. First to take out Hillary and then later to neutralize us.It worked.
The old mantra that you can't expect anything from a Democrat--they are so entitled-- was also in play and they have used it to bring on their finest hour.
In addition the DBM has played ever so important a part. At any time in this fiasco if they (or our not so blessed talk radio) had got on board and demanded that he prove who the hell he is, his history, where he came from etc. and a zillion other questions, the shit would have hit the fan.
Neither one did so here we are.