Can’t find wrong that needs righted (Outraged at right to carry a gun)

Lebanon Daily News ^ | 30 December, 2008 | Karl Kohr

[marktwain]

I am forced to apologize to the reading public. With so many other concerns to write about, I tried to restrain myself from writing on the Meleanie Hain story but could do so no longer.

With her lawsuit pending before the courts, I now am experiencing an outrage so great that only a dismissal of the case by the judge can quell it. I am appalled at people who create unusual or controversial situations and then try to profit from them. Hain’s case is typical of this process.

What damages did she incur? If you are wrongly accused of a crime, you cannot recoup your attorney costs! Since she chose not to use her concealed-weapons permit at the soccer game, what trauma did she suffer? She appeared to revel in the publicity of the story. She claims that Sheriff Michael DeLeo has traumatized her in some way. If I understand correctly, she was not prohibited from owning her gun after her concealed-carry permit was temporarily revoked.

Let me first clarify by saying that I do not like guns, have never owned one and have never shot one. However, I do respect the right of individuals to own them based on the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution. But I also recognize the limitations of this amendment. Restrictions on gun ownership and/or gun responsibilities are not designed to take weapons away from the general populous. To extrapolate the Second Amendment to the degree many gun lobbyists and some (not necessarily the majority) gun advocates do would lead

to the ownership of nuclear-tipped intercontinental ballistic missiles by those who could afford them. To this end it must be noted that the purpose of the Second Amendment was to assure that the federal government could not raise a standing army more powerful than the state militias.

I would appreciate an explanation from gun owners who have obtained a concealed-weapons permit as to why someone would go through the painstaking process of obtaining a concealed-weapons permit and then not utilize that permit (and common sense) when attending a youth soccer game. Why would someone do something such as this unless to draw attention to a political cause advocated by that individual and other associates?

Now they wish to be rewarded in a court of law and profit from an action that traumatized many people at that soccer game. Maybe those who attended that soccer game should seek litigation against and compensation from the individual that caused the trauma imposed on both their children and themselves. Wouldn’t that be poetic justice?

[marktwain]

Interesting editorial from the Lebanon Daily News. It realy shows why there is such bias against gun ownership in the MSM.

[Myrddin]

Who incited the "trauma" at the soccer game? Some bed wetting, anti-gun leftist? Did the gun owner inappropriately use her firearm? I suspect some gun hater decided to hyperventilate and turn law enforcement on a gun owner...simply for being a gun owner. If that caused legal expenses for the gun owner, the idiot who incited the problem should pay for it.

[JRandomFreeper]

Let me first clarify by saying that I do not like guns,

I don't like 5/16th box end wrenches. Most Americans don't need them. I get scared when someone picks one up at Lowes and puts it in a cart..... Should I sue? Or get therapy?

/johnny

[PAR35]

Interesting editorial

I'd say poorly written, rather than interesting.

[Travis McGee]

Frankly, I don’t “get” the push for “in your face” open carry in libland. I CCW, but why poke the stick of open carry in the eyes of the lib sheeple? What am I missing? I’d much rather carry concealed, and let it be a surprise to the bad guys, than telegraph my pistol anyway. I’m not condemning her, I just don’t understand her.

[Uncle Ike]

” designed to take weapons away from the general populous “

Stopped reading here — SpelChek be damned, a (supposedly) professional editorial writer who can’t tell the difference between ‘populous’ and ‘populace’ has nothing to say of any value.....

[Hardastarboard]

I do not like guns, have never owned one and have never shot one.

Faggot.

However, I do respect the right of individuals to own them based on the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution. But I also recognize the limitations of this amendment. Restrictions on gun ownership and/or gun responsibilities are not designed to take weapons away from the general populous. To extrapolate the Second Amendment to the degree many gun lobbyists and some (not necessarily the majority) gun advocates do would lead to the ownership of nuclear-tipped intercontinental ballistic missiles by those who could afford them.

Liar

To this end it must be noted that the purpose of the Second Amendment was to assure that the federal government could not raise a standing army more powerful than the state militias.

Historical illiterate.

Pretty much sums up the author, and 95% of virulently anti-gun journalists and politicians, in their entirety.

[phrogphlyer]

Let me first clarify by saying that I do not like newspapers, have never written for one and rarely read one. However, I do respect the right of individuals to own or write for them based on the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. But I also recognize the limitations of this amendment. Restrictions on newspaper ownership and/or free speech are not designed to take freedom of speech away from the general populous. To extrapolate the First Amendment to the degree many free speech lobbyists and some (not necessarily the majority) newspaper writers do would lead to the unlimited access to express their views to the general public by those who could afford to do so.

What a dumbass.

[muawiyah]

After saying all of that I would necessarily infer that the writer favors bringing state militia up to the force held by the US Department of Defense through the simple expedient of arming them with nuclear missiles.

And someone like that wants to make us believe he or she knows something about restricting firearms.

[MaxMax]

I carry a 9/16 in my boot, and the fully auto rechargable assualt 3/8 driver on my hip.

[buccaneer81]

I saw that, too.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

Apart from the section of the article that talked about people being traumatized by seeing a gun at a soccer game (more liberal hogwash), I actually agree with a lot of what the article is saying.

I have handled guns since I was 10 years old. Have plenty of them. Have a Pa concealed carry permit which I use often and am a firm believer in the 2nd amendment.

I don’t think this woman does anything to advance the cause of gun rights in this country by creating a confrontation. Yes, I believe she did this on purpose with the hopes of causing a disturbance. If she was worried about safety she could have been carrying concealed.

I support the groups that try to educate the public on open carry by going as a group open carrying to a dinner or social night out in a non threatening, but educating way. I think that’s the way to educate the public. I believe this woman does disservice to our cause.

[stainlessbanner]

painstaking process of obtaining a concealed-weapons permit

Is it really that painful to get a CCW in PA?

[gwilhelm56]

This editorial also shows the latent STUPIDITY of the MSM and the ANTI-GUN LOBBY. Nuclear tipped ballistic missiles, INDEED!

With a NY Police force working like a Militia, raiding sovereign territory, maybe I should rethink my opinion on the nuke tips. 2nd amendment (MSM, this is for you, so SHUT UP AND READ)says the RIGHT to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed. NOTICE, MSM, it says NOTHING about Targets or HUNTING.

Concealed Carry (one of YOUR Restrictions) is just that, CONCEALED. Once in a while things pop loose and are revealed (Ask Britney or Madonna about that).

Now, these people have scared me into the idea of Buying some Firearms, if I can find the AMMO, which seems to be in short supply!

[Honcho Bongs]

I suppose you think it would be okay for people to carry 1/2” torque wrenches and bottle jacks around, too! You people ...

[stylin19a]

Had to do some research to get the gist of this article.

“It was legal for Meleanie Hain to openly carry a gun to her 5-year-old daughter's soccer game, but that doesn't mean it was right, Lebanon County Judge Robert Eby said today.”

Here's a good history of it.
http://comment-blog.advance.net/cgi-bin/mte/mt-search.cgi?tag=Meleanie%20Hain&blog_id=3032

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"To this end it must be noted that the purpose of the Second Amendment was to assure that the federal government could not raise a standing army more powerful than the state militias.

Historical illiterate.

Actually, if you read Federalist paper 46, the author of the 2nd amendment pretty much says what is written above. The basic reason for the 2nd amendment is to put a check on a tyrannical government. And yes, there are some on our side that do believe we should be allowed to own any arms to include nukes. I have discussed it in this forum with them.

Aside from the liberal bedwetting the author does about people being traumatized by seeing a gun at a soccer game, the author has a lot of good points.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

Is it really that painful to get a CCW in PA?

It takes $25, fill out a form and have three friends willing to vouch for your character and you get a 5 year license. It's not hard at all.

[GBA]

I fail to see the problem, but perhaps the writer should stay out of places that allow open carry. I'm from Phoenix and though I've not lived there for a decade, it was open carry when I did. It was not at all unusual to be in line at say, a Taco Bell and see a common ordinary citizen with a Colt 1911 in a holster or be next to someone at a stop light and see a Bereta on the seat next to them. I used to ride my bike alone and with some friends and noticed drivers were very polite when I rode with this one guy who wore a Ruger. Somehow they could see it even in low light.

[gwilhelm56]

Sorry, my bad... Actually I like OPEN CARRY even better. Except then the Whiny LIB Sheeple would complain about the Silver inlay in the pearl handlegrip.

I’m wondering if this story is just a new chapter in a LONG STORY of the whiny anti gun LIB that WON’T SHUT UP. I’ve had co-workers like that, to where I’d want to buy an M16 with a 200 cartridge clip, just to MOUNT on the wall behind my DESK.