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When A Woman Isn't In The Mood: Part II (Female Nature, Sex And Men Alert)
Townhall.com ^ | 12/30/2008 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 12/29/2008 11:11:17 PM PST by goldstategop

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To: HungarianGypsy

” Last month I got my monthly times off and was worried I was late.”

Don’t you just LOVE that feeling?

And you can’t tell if your nausea is from pregnancy or from panic?

“He said, “I wouldn’t be mad. I’d be broke. But, I’m broke already.””

LOL!

I know how he feels.

Amazing how the little critters can swim through money.


421 posted on 12/31/2008 7:30:25 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Tax-chick

Which makes one wonder about guys who HAVE to go without sex for a duration. What about their prostates?


422 posted on 12/31/2008 7:44:27 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Scotswife
My last baby was a stealth baby, so I try to be aware of every symptom now. I probably checked my nipples about twenty times a day to make sure they hadn't gotten darker.

Last time I was late and it was nothing, I got a pregnancy test and stared at it for five minutes to make sure I really wasn't going to wind up with another line. It was a strange thing to not see on such a test.

423 posted on 12/31/2008 7:48:42 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Tax-chick
Alright. Just for you, since you've been a part of these threads, let me toss in a guy's perspective about your question.

First, it surprises me somewhat that you would so perfunctorily tell me that you don't know. Maybe many women don't know, or just aren't sure. My wife doesn't know, either.

About the premise of the article - Prager's second sentence of this article says that men should understand that all sexual encounters shouldn't be expected to end in intercourse. I agree with that. But I'm also a guy, so the more, the better, if you get my drift.

I personally don't buy this premise that men's needs are purely or only biological and physical. It's blatantly obvious that all that is PART of it. But if that's all it is then that makes us, the human race, nothing but animals. Pretty much the polar opposite of being made in God's image.

Your question seems to discount any part of a man's desire to share an emotional, as well as physical, bond with his wife. Like if a guy can just take a couple of minutes and relieve the physical pressure he's feeling, then that's all he's interested in. Hell, let's be honest - I don't need ANY woman for that, if that's the only immediate goal I have.

It's like women claiming they have no physical need of sex; it's only the emotional connection they are seeking. I think that's far too one-dimensional of an answer for either sex to claim.

For me - and I won't claim to speak for men everywhere - I'm also seeking the emotional bond along with the physical, when I'm trying to make love to my wife. I can tell her until I'm blue in the face. But no matter how weak or strong my wordsmithing skills are, they are still just words. Even if completly heartfelt...guys are more about action. So I want to show her.

I want her to see in my eyes that I'm delighted with the woman I've chosen to make a life with. I want her to see and feel how proud I am that she chose a life with me, forsaking all others. I want to display to her, with whatever passion and intensity that I can bring to the experience that I've rejected all others, so to share these times and moments with her alone. That she's exceedingly special and important to me in so many more ways than I could ever speak in words, and that she's my earthly treasure. I want to put aside all the world's distractions for a time and build the best physical and emotional bond that I'm capable of, for as long as the moment can last.

Ask another man, if my words don't convince you.

424 posted on 12/31/2008 7:59:16 AM PST by willgolfforfood
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To: willgolfforfood
it surprises me somewhat that you would so perfunctorily tell me that you don't know

Well, I have opinions and deductions, after almost 20 years of marriage, but so many people on these threads have been offering "data" contrary to my experience that I keep checking Der Prinz out of the corner of my eye to see if he's going to have a prostate eruption or something.

Prager's second sentence of this article says that men should understand that all sexual encounters shouldn't be expected to end in intercourse.

I assumed from that that he meant he expected oral sex or some other all-for-him interaction, because that's just my perception of him. Your mileage may vary of course. I understand some people like his writing.

Regarding the rest of your post, that is consistent with my experience with my husband, and you seem like a really nice man whose wife should be happy.

425 posted on 12/31/2008 8:06:09 AM PST by Tax-chick (You exist, okay? YOU EXIST! Now stop talking to me!)
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To: HungarianGypsy

I don’t think I want to know.


426 posted on 12/31/2008 8:06:38 AM PST by Tax-chick (You exist, okay? YOU EXIST! Now stop talking to me!)
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To: Gilbo_3

Yeah, the article does start with the premise of a good and decent man. In that light, as a wife, you need to do what it takes to keep that decent man happy. I tried for a long time to keep my no good man happy and failed miserably. We have 7 great kids and I have no regrets about them. I have come to learn that happiness comes from the inside. He was and remains miserable and it is not my job to be his constant source of entertainment and/or happiness.


427 posted on 12/31/2008 8:14:09 AM PST by denfurb (proud Mama, 6 girls and 1 boy)
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To: HungarianGypsy

I’ve quit checking for signs.

I somewhat suspect checking for signs actually can CAUSE pregnancy.


428 posted on 12/31/2008 8:14:17 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: RobRoy
Erin Pizzey is a woman who founded England's first "battered women's" shelter in 1971, and had a chance to closely observe the women who came to her shelters over many years. One observation is that there is a type of woman who NEEDS the excitement of conflict, and will work hard to provoke her husband/boyfriend into conflict with her.

There are couple of her works, The Emotional Terrorist and Prone to Violence which you may find interesting reading.

Pizzey is hugely unpopular with the feminist "women are always victims" set.

429 posted on 12/31/2008 8:15:14 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (We used to institutionalize the insane. Now we elect them.)
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To: denfurb

” I have come to learn that happiness comes from the inside. He was and remains miserable and it is not my job to be his constant source of entertainment and/or happiness.”

I often hear my mother-in-law make the comment regarding my husband’s stepmother....”she wanted him. she got him.”

My MIL did wind up meeting and marrying a good man who adored her.


430 posted on 12/31/2008 8:16:13 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: PapaBear3625

“One observation is that there is a type of woman who NEEDS the excitement of conflict, and will work hard to provoke her husband/boyfriend into conflict with her.”

I watched one of these women at work on night many years ago.
Pushed buttons all night just so he would lose it in front of everybody.

I helped her out once thinking she needed my help.

Big mistake.


431 posted on 12/31/2008 8:18:08 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: willgolfforfood

“It’s like women claiming they have no physical need of sex;”

Who ARE these women?


432 posted on 12/31/2008 8:20:49 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: hocndoc

“It’s unfortunate that Prager, twice divorced and (I believe) currently without a wife,”

CURRENTLY WITHOUT A WIFE you say???

Really? Isn’t THAT interesting?

So, that would be TWO WIVES Mr. Prager has gone through?

Isn’t THAT interesting?


433 posted on 12/31/2008 8:24:23 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

I’m married to one.


434 posted on 12/31/2008 8:29:47 AM PST by willgolfforfood
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To: willgolfforfood

Has she been to the doctor?

Or a counselor?

I really don’t know many women like this.


435 posted on 12/31/2008 8:32:28 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Tax-chick
However, in the interests of science, can you explain how a man who can't have an erection could be said to be in physical need of sexual relief?

Would you tell an asthma sufferer who is having an episode where she can't breathe, that this proves that she doesn't need to breathe? As an admittedly "over the top" example, it illustrates a case where one part of your body is sending screaming signals that you should perform an action, while the part that actually needs to perform the action is not working

It's one of those things you may need to be a guy to understand.

436 posted on 12/31/2008 8:35:33 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (We used to institutionalize the insane. Now we elect them.)
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To: PapaBear3625
As an admittedly "over the top" example,

So far over the top that it doesn't elucidate at all.

437 posted on 12/31/2008 8:37:35 AM PST by Tax-chick (You exist, okay? YOU EXIST! Now stop talking to me!)
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To: Scotswife

Good for your MIL. I am also hoping to find a good man some day and enjoy a good/happy/fulfilling marriage. :-)


438 posted on 12/31/2008 8:39:38 AM PST by denfurb (proud Mama, 6 girls and 1 boy)
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To: willgolfforfood

man, that’s gotta stink big time


439 posted on 12/31/2008 8:41:12 AM PST by denfurb (proud Mama, 6 girls and 1 boy)
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To: Tax-chick

Well, I can see their point. Sex is a bit more that intercourse. There is the enjoyment of all that goes with it. A man whose “equipment” needs help does not forget all of the enjoyment of being with a woman


440 posted on 12/31/2008 8:43:55 AM PST by denfurb (proud Mama, 6 girls and 1 boy)
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