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"The influence primarily responsible for the modern eugenics movement was the establishment of the doctrine of organic evolution following the publication of Darwin's Origin of Species in 1859."

- Samuel J. Holmes, Human Genetics, 1936, chapter 25.

Click here for more information about the pernicious effects of Darwnism on humanity.

1 posted on 12/29/2008 4:45:27 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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Feeble-minded ping.


2 posted on 12/29/2008 4:47:55 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Just wow ping.


3 posted on 12/29/2008 4:51:41 AM PST by Gigantor (Sunni or later, shiite happens...)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Feeble-minded describes some Obama voters.


5 posted on 12/29/2008 4:55:51 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Intelligence, like other human traits such as skin color or height, does have a strong genetic component. What if anything we do with that information is a political question, but I don’t think we should try to ignore reality.


6 posted on 12/29/2008 4:59:09 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

A very interesting read: I don’t know much about Eugenics, haven’t seen much presented on it before.

Setting aside the obvious ethical issues (the over-riding morality of which being acknowledged), it would seem that eugenics would have some solid scientific support thru what we have learned from Animal Husbandry and Plant Propagation.

We can reliably produce an animal — say, a dog — to have very precise characteristics and few-or-no flaws. We can do the same with plants.

So why not Humans? Why is Eugenics discredited?


7 posted on 12/29/2008 4:59:40 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Would you like to come to the point?


9 posted on 12/29/2008 5:08:58 AM PST by Misterioso ( Socialism is an ideology. Capitalism is a natural phenomenon.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

I thought this was an analysis of Congress.


11 posted on 12/29/2008 5:17:39 AM PST by IbJensen (MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE! Next year: famine and communism!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Liberal thinking at its finest, with the perfect tool for justifying the destruction of humankind.


12 posted on 12/29/2008 5:23:34 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Moral absolutes ping


17 posted on 12/29/2008 5:33:09 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
This is a problem for which there is no moral solution. You simply cannot argue that there are large populations of people who are unfit for the 21st century.

“These classes... contain the people who complain that they are starving for lack of work, though they will never perform any work that is given them.”

That sentence, or a variation of it, is repeated on FR every week; I hear it daily among business and professional people. The reasons are just as Havelock Ellis stated them: “inborn laziness, lack of vitality, and unfitness for organized activity”.

Some people were meant to live a subsistence existence in an agrarian environment — watching animals, seeing that plants get adequate water, rooting out weeds, doing harvest work. For thousand of years, that is how people lived. The industrial revolution changed all that; unable to adapt (feeble-mindedness?) these people became superfluous. We in civilized Europe and America have provided a safety net of welfare for these people, but what do you do when the economy contracts and these people keep breeding?

The problem is made worse by the fact that large numbers of these people are congregated in cities. A few years ago, I looked at murder statistics for my state. Almost all the murders take place in the most populous counties. Smaller (and much poorer) counties seldom have these crimes. Why?

I don't have a solution. I don't think anybody on earth does. The solutions proposed by Ellis and Sanger, as you point out, led straight to Nazi race theory. However, if you ignore the problem, you get the Paris mobs of the French Revolution, the Bolshevik chaos of 1917, and appeals to disaffected masses in Africa, Asia, Europe, and yes, the United States by Islamofascists (2008).

“Even so, come, Lord Jesus”

22 posted on 12/29/2008 6:07:52 AM PST by GadareneDemoniac
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” If we seek to classify the feeble-minded, taken in the largest mass, with reference not to their forms but to the degree of their mental defectiveness, they may be said (following Damaye’s classification) to fall into four groups:

1. Complete idiots who live a merely vegetative existence;
2. incomplete idiots with few and rudimentary ideas;
3. imbeciles, with limited and often perverted ideas, but capable of being taught to read and write; and
4. the weak-minded who can be educated to a varying extent by special methods.”

I saw this and started categorizing the people I work with...


25 posted on 12/29/2008 6:16:32 AM PST by 2right
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39 posted on 12/29/2008 8:01:36 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Interesting read. Not sure about state-sponsored sterilization, but I’ve often and not-quite-seriously entertained the idea to give all 15 year old boys vasectomies (whch are reversible) and only had the procedure to reverse allowed after say completion of college or 10 years of solid work history or joined the military perhaps we might diminish the steady entropic drift of society while not descending ourselves into Brave New World-class evil. I know of one malefactor receiving welfare in 4 adjacent states who has fathered 113 children with scores of women and never once held a job nor raised a single one of these children. I’m quite sure this is not the record, but it serves to illustrate my point.


42 posted on 12/29/2008 10:09:03 AM PST by mdk1960
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45 posted on 12/29/2008 4:10:51 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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46 posted on 12/29/2008 4:16:29 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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