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Ada preacher charged with molesting young boys
NewsOK ^ | December 24, 2008 | Johnny Johnson

Posted on 12/25/2008 8:00:13 AM PST by CE2949BB

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To: Ditter

It is prescribed as a blood pressure medicine if you can afford it.
I know one man who’s taking it following a severe accident because of its ability to increase blood circulation.


21 posted on 12/25/2008 8:36:23 AM PST by em2vn
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To: CE2949BB
We need a warning on blood pressure medicine.
Warning: Use of this medication could unlock latent homosexual tendencies in people who were born gay and unaware of it... not that there's anything wrong with it.
22 posted on 12/25/2008 8:38:55 AM PST by The Brush
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To: em2vn

I know where the increased blood circulation occurs. Men with heart conditions are advised NOT to take it because the blood is not circulating in their brains and hearts.


23 posted on 12/25/2008 8:40:27 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter
Viagra is not a blood pressure medicine, you old fool!

Not exactly true. It was developed as a blood pressure medication, but the "side effects" turned out to be its main use (Praise the Lord and pass the Viagra). As I understand it (no doctor, stayed at a Holiday Inn once), it is actually used as a blood pressure medication for the specific condition of pulmonary hypertension.

24 posted on 12/25/2008 8:41:42 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: napscoordinator
According to yellowpages.com, this barney fag lookalike is being foisted by whatever evil invented New Hope Baptist Church.

It doesn't exist in Ada, Oklahoma.

I tried to bring the page over here, but it wouldn't link.

25 posted on 12/25/2008 8:50:46 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: CE2949BB

This is applicable to preachers or layman or atheists — it applies to all... (to you, to me, to all the readers...)...

Romans 3:10-28

10 As it is written: “There is none righteous, no, not one;

11 There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God.

12 They have all turned aside; They have together become unprofitable; There is none who does good, no, not one.”

13 “Their throat is an open tomb; With their tongues they have practiced deceit”; “The poison of asps is under their lips”;

14 “Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness.”

15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood;

16 Destruction and misery are in their ways;

17 And the way of peace they have not known.”

18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”

19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

20 Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,

22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference;

23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed,

26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith.

28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.

In addition, even the Christian has the following problem..., but the atheist and the “ignorant of God” and the ones who refuse the salvation of Christ — have this problem ten times over again — much worse...

Romans 7:5-24

5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death.

6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.”

8 But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law sin was dead.

9 I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died.

10 And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death.

11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me.

12 Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.

13 Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful.

14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.

15 For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do.

16 If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good.

17 But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.

18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find.

19 For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice.

20 Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.

21 I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good.

22 For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man.

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

24 O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?

Even the Apostle Paul says — “O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?”

BUT THEN..., we who are saved by accepting Jesus Christ as our savior and accepting the salvation that God has provided through His Son — can say...

Romans 7:25, 8:1-4

25 I thank God—through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.

1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus,* who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.

3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh,

4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.


So, while this sinful nature that all people have has caused God to *condemn all to death* — without even anything as sinful as this article suggests. Even though there are people who reject Christ and who would definitely condemn this man — *they themselves* (absent the salvation of Christ) are condemned to the everlasting “lake of fire” where God has for Satan and his evil angels, too. Many who condemn (as in the above) are going to end up in this eternal torment of the “lake of fire” that God has for those who reject the salvation of Jesus Christ...


26 posted on 12/25/2008 8:51:11 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Arthur McGowan; napscoordinator

You said — “Everybody knows that if Baptist preachers were allowed to get married, they wouldn’t go after little boys.”

Post #26 applies to Baptist preachers or any other preachers or priests or *anyone* who reads the above article...


27 posted on 12/25/2008 8:52:57 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Twinkie
Twinkies get blamed for EVERYTHING!!

It's the cream filling you use for brains.

28 posted on 12/25/2008 8:53:09 AM PST by bigheadfred (FREE EVAN VELA, freeevanvela.com)
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To: CE2949BB
...he did not know why he had been molesting two young boys for several months, but it might have something to do with his numerous blood pressure medications.

Wasn't that the same excuse that Vito Spatafore gave Tony Soprano when he got busted in a gay bar?
29 posted on 12/25/2008 8:53:33 AM PST by tundrachick
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To: CE2949BB

There is no excuse for this. He is guilty of the doing. No one held a gun to his head.

Although, right now, that sounds like a cogent idea.

Qwitcherblamingame and accept responsibility, dumb@$$. No one forced you to act on your impulses, you did that on your own.


30 posted on 12/25/2008 8:55:01 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Cultural conditions, not gun laws, are the most important factors in a nation's crime rate.)
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To: napscoordinator; All
Third...baptists never have this type of situation according to many who were dissing the Catholic Priests a while back....Where are those FREEPERS now???????

There are animals in every large group.

Anyone that claims their group is immune to this sort of thing is either a liar or delusional.

31 posted on 12/25/2008 8:56:41 AM PST by CE2949BB (MERRY CHRISTMAS!)
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To: napscoordinator

Couric will not announce this on the evening news. Wrong religion.


32 posted on 12/25/2008 8:57:50 AM PST by Radl (rtr)
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To: zarodinu
Put him in general population with the rapists and murderers,
and tell them why he is there, non of that protective custody BS.


That is a likely outcome.
Maybe twenty years ago there was a preacher in Oklahoma (Alva?)
that got convicted for having a bit too much fun while helping
young girls in the congregation with a computer.

It's been years, but I think he didn't last more than a couple of
years in jail before another inmate rendered ultimate justice.
(by kniving the preacher)
33 posted on 12/25/2008 9:00:18 AM PST by VOA
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To: CE2949BB

I agree with you 100%.

That’s why the insistense that homeschooling will prevent this from happening to your child is short-sighted and foolish. Our society is corrupt and we do our children no favors to pretend that this type of only exists in Catholic churches and public schools.

And as for Baptists never having this type of situation? Please don’t make me sick on Christmas day. I was actually molested inside a Baptist church when I was 8. Luckily I was too young to know at the time what was actually going on and it wasn’t until I was near an adult that I realized what had happened.

Predators come in many guises


34 posted on 12/25/2008 9:02:03 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: napscoordinator

The pastor admitted to police that he had really wanted to become a Catholic priest but had to settle for Baptist. end sarcasm.

On a sad note pedophiles at his age have already abused hundreds if not thousands of children. his behaviour is considered level 5 on the sexual addiction scale and there is NO cure.

ALL pedophiles were victims of the same type of abuse as children. No excuse, just a fact.


35 posted on 12/25/2008 9:02:09 AM PST by stockpirate (My Beeber is on full stun as the site appears to be over run with trolls.)
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To: CE2949BB

Blame anything but yourself, you old pervert.


36 posted on 12/25/2008 9:04:25 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is the Antichrist.)
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To: VOA

Aham, I believe the term is “shiv”

see also
1) Slang for a knife or any other small cutting/stabbing weapon, often homemade; think inmates with sharpened toothbrushes.

2) The act of utilising the aforementioned small cutting/stabbing weapon to cut/stab someone.
A shiv is a weapon made out of an commonplace object often in prison, also perhaps the origin of which is as a acronym a Self Honed Implement of Violence (SHIV).

A shiv could be a sharpened toothbrush made into a knife.
3. Shiv
A Home Made Knife made out of Anything but metal. Not to be confused with a Shank (a home made knife made of metal).

Shivs are usually made of Glass, Wood, or Scrap Plastic

Example — Shived- To be stabbed by a Shiv
“I heard that Guy from Cell block B was coming to Shank me... He’ll be surprised when I’ve got my Shiv deep in his Lungs”

Oddly, the Spanish word for shiv is also shiv. Perhaps because it is from the Romani word chiv.

At any rate the preacher-man is not going to have any fun in the big house.

And yes, it is a slow day till the grandkids show up.....


37 posted on 12/25/2008 9:42:34 AM PST by ASOC (This space could be employed, if I could only get a bailout...)
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To: CE2949BB
A Baptist preacher told the Pontotoc County undersheriff he did not know why he had been molesting two young boys for several months, but it might have something to do with his numerous blood pressure medications.

I just checked the ADA list ofBlood Pressure Drug Side Effects and doinking little boys didn't make the list.

38 posted on 12/25/2008 10:00:40 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (It Should be Immediate OPEN SEASON on all RHINO's and PUMA's.)
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To: SoftballMominVA
Homeschooling does not pretend that pedophiles don't exist outside of public schools.

It does however recognize that not only are predators epidemic within the public schools, they are protected by the teaches union there.

Are you willing to defend your contention that the teachers union and local school systems do not attempt to protect pedophiles, or were you simply trolling and hoping not to be challenged?

39 posted on 12/25/2008 10:06:13 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: CE2949BB

If only Nashville would allow Baptist ministers to marry!


40 posted on 12/25/2008 10:13:47 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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