[cpdiii]

Sounds like we will have to go to war against our own military. I’ll protect myself, thank you, even if it’s against our own government troups.

Question for active duty and recently discharged military. Would the troops and officers fire on American citizens in an attempt to confiscate our legally owned weapons? The military is sworn to uphold the constitution. WILL THEY???

[TalonDJ]

Would the troops and officers fire on American citizens in an attempt to confiscate our legally owned weapons?

They DID after Katrina. There were National Guard doing that.

[stevie_d_64]

You bet yer sweet bippy...

...to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foriegn and domestic...

There is nowhere in that oath that required us to “uphold” or even understand the Constitution outside those specific parameters...

I happened to explore outside the box in many deep thoughts I had over the years about the Constitution not only being inspired words on a piece of parchment...It also meant “people” (the citizens) to me...

There will be places around this country that will be easier pickings for those (in what might be any surviving segments of our government) that want to drastically engage some that don’t really agree with certain courses of action in this case...

I’m hoping it never gets to that point...I’m pretty sure it won’t, but all of this tells me there are people with too much time on their hands to plan for this contingiency...

[familyop]

"Question for active duty and recently discharged military. Would the troops and officers fire on American citizens in an attempt to confiscate our legally owned weapons? The military is sworn to uphold the constitution. WILL THEY???"

No.

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

Soldiers and Marines are more likely than people of any other group to honor every word of that. Most of them are also from the most generous and conservative families in our USA.

But certain private civilian organizations would be likely to violate your constitutional rights while claiming to uphold the Constitution. They are fascists and communists who would like to murder whole groups of other good Americans because of their race, ethnicity, income levels and the like.

[redgolum]

Despite a lot of the romantics here, I suspect many will fire on citizens.

Not all, probably not the majority, but enough that will. History has shown it to often to believe otherwise.

The real question is what will happen after wards. The first time, maybe. The second... Who knows?

Also it really depends on why the orders are giving. Say a unit is bused over night to a different part of the country from where they are based, and told that a whole area is in rebellion, or needs to be isolated because of Ebola, or what ever else soon bastard son of Gobbels could dream up. Make it believable so the troops think they HAVE to fire on the civilians or all hell will break loose and more will die. Again, will work the first time, and if the scenario is played all over at the same time there will probably not be a second.

We should not delude ourselves that the military will mount what amounts to a coup if they are ordered to detain and attack US civilians.

[DugwayDuke]

“Question for active duty and recently discharged military. Would the troops and officers fire on American citizens in an attempt to confiscate our legally owned weapons? The military is sworn to uphold the constitution. WILL THEY???”

We had two or three threads on this subject back before Y2K. Some staff officer at some war college did a survey of his class asking all sorts of questions. One question was would they fire on their fellow Americans if ordered.

It looks like Obama’s election will resurrect all the old Y2K rumors how a President was going to take over the US and sell us out to the UN. Just change the name from Clinton to Obama and the story line is the same.

[Oatka]

Would the troops and officers fire on American citizens in an attempt to confiscate our legally owned weapons?

See 'SHOOT AMERICANS' SURVEY RESULTS (1995)

[CottonBall]

Would the troops and officers fire on American citizens in an attempt to confiscate our legally owned weapons?

Excellent question. Given that most of the military is conservative, following orders by a liberal president and liberal congress that involve citizens hopefully wouldn't be likely. I give our troops more credit than that.

Revolutions usually go to the side that has the military. ie., 1917 in Russia. I think they'll be on our side.