Posted on 12/23/2008 9:37:10 PM PST by KellyM37
U.S. Military Preparing for Domestic Disturbances
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 1:14 PM
By: Jim Meyers
A new report from the U.S. Army War College discusses the use of American troops to quell civil unrest brought about by a worsening economic crisis.
The report from the War College’s Strategic Studies Institute warns that the U.S. military must prepare for a “violent, strategic dislocation inside the United States” that could be provoked by “unforeseen economic collapse” or “loss of functioning political and legal order.”
Entitled “Known Unknowns: Unconventional ‘Strategic Shocks’ in Defense Strategy Development,” the report was produced by Nathan Freier, a recently retired Army lieutenant colonel who is a professor at the college — the Army’s main training institute for prospective senior officers.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
This will be the excuse.....mass refugee incursion from Mexico.
THE WAR NEXT DOOR
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2151549/posts
[snip]How do you begin to understand that so many people are dying in Mexico? More than 5,000 casualties because of “narcotrafficking.” That’s more than all of the American troops that have died fighting an actual war in Iraq.
You both have made some good points. What I was trying to point out is that they are better equipped and have at their request weapons that we don’t even know about. Us 50+ year old guys with bad knees and backs would not stand a chance, even though we’d like to think so.
While sitting at the drug store last week waiting for my wife to get an Rx filled I watched as guys my age hobbled and limped in to get their Rx. These guys are most likely Conservative Patriots that love and have fought for their country and our freedoms. This, for the most part, is our Militia. The younger emasculated males are more interested in iPod’s and shopping at the mall. Granted there are a handful of the younger fellows that would be willing to sacrifice all for our freedoms.
Ahh, yes, once again: FReeper Island.
No thanks Kelly - I’m married.
You have fun with your buddies tho - OK?
You’re really correct. No way a bunch of fifty year old guys can compete one-on-one with a bunch of teenagers. That said, there are ways to compensate. As an old man once said: “Old age, experience and trickery will beat youth, enthusiasm and skill any day.”
Too few people understand the importance of continued training, proper organization, and the right equipment to winning. A few properly trained and highly disciplined soldiers will beat a mob everytime.
I’ll let you have your pick of every position from every NFL team to make your all star team. Just give me one complete team who’ve practiced together, understand their offense and defense, and trust each other and I’ll beat your all stars every time.
Well you might verify what he really said. It certainly doesn't sound like him. Both in content and in phraseology.
Well you might verify what he really said. It certainly doesn't sound like him. Both in content and in phraseology.
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/11/20/185048.shtml
As I read the article, he's certainly not saying it would be a Good Thing. He's making a, more in sadness than in anger, prediction. How many here have made the same prediction? Did they mean they wanted it that way, or would work to make it that way?
A short excerpt, which still doesn't quite give the full context, but a more of the "flavor".
If that happens, Franks said, “... the Western world, the free world, loses what it cherishes most, and that is freedom and liberty we’ve seen for a couple of hundred years in this grand experiment that we call democracy.”
Franks then offered “in a practical sense” what he thinks would happen in the aftermath of such an attack.
“It means the potential of a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event somewhere in the Western world – it may be in the United States of America – that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event. Which in fact, then begins to unravel the fabric of our Constitution. Two steps, very, very important.”
Seems as though you are unable to differentiate between an opinion as to that which could happen vis-a-vis a recommendation to that which should happen.
Compared to even the most extreme anti government fringers in the US, the IRA was a just a handful of folks. Most weren't even very well armed. Unlike aforementioned "fringers", let alone mainstream FReepers. They had to leave their country just to practice their marksmanship, such as it was. Many of us can go out in our back yards, but at worst we have to travel a few miles to get to a range.
They are now. THere are no front lines in Iraq. Heck Air Force support types are running and escorting convoys.
Who they fight for is another question.
They aren't trained in room clearing and such, because that is not their mission, but they can fight.
He'll be the only One who can get us out of this mess.
I wasn’t casting aspersions on their ability or willingness ‘to fight’. I fully recognize the contributions made by support troops. My comments were in made in the context of responding to post #90. See below.
Post #90 “The military also has a large population of black soldiers who blindly voted for the 0ne and would cast their loyalties to the black cause. In my opinion, we have trained and armed a large force that will be used against us to maintain “civil order” on the orders of ‘their’ President. What greater dream is there for the angry black man to finally, and in his view, legally take up arms against ‘whitey’ and expel all that hatred that has been brewing for 400 years?”
My comments were that a disporportionate number of minorities serve in combat support and combat service support and that a disproportionate number of non-minorities serve in combat arms. I was comparing the ability of the combat arms v. the support arms in “maintaining civil order”. My point was, even if the original poster was correct (and I doubt that), these minorities are not in the types of units, have not received the types of training, and lack the equipment to conduct these kinds of missions.
“Good fire team drills are as mystifying to civilians and service-support specialty personnel as a rugby match is to new rugby fans.”
Unfortunately, if these things were to come to pass, all too many ‘make-believe rambos’ are going to get a lot of folks killed discovering that. No way a bunch of red-neck rambos can go toe-to-toe with a regular combat unit.
“And yes, civilians are far more safe in an environment administered by soldiers/Marines than any mob.”
I believe Gen Franks was absolutely correct in forecasting the consequences of a nuclear event within an American city. Martial law is far superior to mob rule.
This is why Obama is appointing so many generals to high positions.
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