1 posted on
12/23/2008 3:39:44 PM PST by
Jerrybob
To: Jerrybob
William the Impeached was going to rule the nation with them.
2 posted on
12/23/2008 3:41:09 PM PST by
Old Sarge
(For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
To: Jerrybob
I think the SC would shoot holes through that after their ruling this summer....
To: Jerrybob
The EO pertains to business of the Executive Branch.
4 posted on
12/23/2008 3:42:00 PM PST by
RightWhale
(We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
To: Jerrybob
5 posted on
12/23/2008 3:42:41 PM PST by
Renegade
(You go tell my buddies)
To: Jerrybob
“Stroke of the pen; law of the land. Pretty cool.” — Klintonite Tyrant-in-waiting.
7 posted on
12/23/2008 3:44:03 PM PST by
Still Thinking
(Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
To: Jerrybob
“Stroke of the pen, law of the land. Pretty cool!”
8 posted on
12/23/2008 3:44:28 PM PST by
ScreamingFist
(Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
To: Jerrybob
The Congress has the power to pass laws; the President does not. Executive Orders are binding only on the Executive Branch of Government, not on private citizens, and even then, are binding only if they are consistent with Congressionally-enacted laws.
To: Jerrybob
I’d think they can go pretty far. The presumption these days, as opposed to he days near the founding of the Republic, is that if it sounds like a law, you have to obey it. Since according to the Constitution the powers allowed to the government were enumerated, laws were more of a “show me” affair back then.
No matter how outrageous the EO, you might have a long battle to show it was unconstitutionally issued, or that there was, to copy Al Gore, no other “controlling legal authority.”
To: Jerrybob
I recall Bush used an executive order to ban the importation of certain so called assault weapons. It seems to me that he simply made law.
totally against the spirit, (and probably the letter) of the Constitution.
12 posted on
12/23/2008 3:49:36 PM PST by
yarddog
To: Jerrybob; Congressman Billybob
He could probably have NHTSA make some percentage of federal highway funds contingent on the lack of CCW laws or on states having random checkpoints for "illegal" firearms.
This is an example of why federal grants-with-strings must be stopped. By offering to pay, the feds implicitly admit they're too far outside their Constitutional sandbox to simply mandate compliance, which in turn demonstrates that they're controlling funds in excess of the amount necessary to carry out their proper functions. Ergo, they owe us a refund.
15 posted on
12/23/2008 3:49:39 PM PST by
Still Thinking
(Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
To: Jerrybob
Well, here are some interesting XOs (and they ain't kisses & hugs, that's for damn sure) for use in an unlimited state of national emergency, aka 'martial law':
Executive Order 10995: All communications media will be brought under control of the Federal Government. Radio, TV, Newspapers, CB, Short Wave/Ham Radios, Telephones, including the Internet will be under federal oversight.
Executive Order 10997: All electrical power, fuels, and all minerals can be seized by the federal government if deemed necessary by virute of a national emergency.
Executive Order 10998: All food resources, farms and farm equipment will be seized by the government. Hoarding food will be prohibited.
Executive Order 10999: All modes of transportation will be under federal control. Any vehicle can be temporarily or permanently appropriated/seized for federal use without compensation to the original owner.
Executive Order 11000: All civilians will be eligible for recruitment into federally supervised work operations.
Executive Order 11490: Establishes presidential control over all US citizens and residents, businesses, and churches, superceding any and all state, county or local laws and regulations.
Executive Order 12919: Directs Cabinet officials designated by the President to be constantly ready to assume control over all aspects of the US economy during a State of National Emergency.
Executive Order 13010: Directs FEMA to assume statutory and managerial control over all government agencies in time of emergency, excluding the armed forces. FEMA is under control of executive branch of the government.
Executive Order 12656: Assignment of Emergency Preparedness Responsibilities, definitions: "A national emergency is any occurrence, including natural disaster, military attack, technological emergency, or other emergency that seriously degrades or seriously threatens the national security of the United States. Policy for national security emergency preparedness shall be established by the President." This order provides for the federal takeover of all local law enforcement agencies, the establishment of wage and price controls, the freezing of assets intended for transfer into or out of the United States, provides for the activation of a military draft by the Selective Service Commission, and controls all travel in and out of the United States (this is already in place, obviously).
17 posted on
12/23/2008 4:07:08 PM PST by
mkjessup
To: Jerrybob
Between Treaties and Executive orders, they can
override all of our constitution.
Bring back the “Bricker Amendment”!
To: Jerrybob
I remember the few days after 9/11, given another attack on US soil it could give POTUS the power to do almost anything if he felt it was a danger to himself, America or to prevent riots and hysteria.
Obama is already placing troops across the country quietly right now.
23 posted on
12/23/2008 4:16:19 PM PST by
Eye of Unk
(How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
To: Jerrybob
Executive orders are as binding upon members of the executive branch as are laws provided the executive order violates no law.
To: Jerrybob
There isn’t much talk about Executive Orders when there is a Republican President in office. This is starting to get repetitive.
26 posted on
12/23/2008 4:19:37 PM PST by
Sawdring
To: Jerrybob
To: Jerrybob
George W. Bush (2001-Present)
EO’s 13198 - 13483 | Subject Index
William J. Clinton (1993-2001)
EO’s 12834-13197 | Subject Index
George Bush (1989-1993)
EO’s 12668-12833
Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)
EO’s 12287-12667
Jimmy Carter (1977-1981)
EO’s 11967-12286
Gerald R. Ford (1974-1977)
EO’s 11798-11966
Richard Nixon (1969-1974)
EO’s 11452-11797
Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-1969)
EO’s 11128-11451
John F. Kennedy (1961-1963)
EO’s 10914-11127
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-1961)
EO’s 10432-10913
Harry S. Truman (1945-1953)
EO’s 9538-10431
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945)
EO’s 6071-9537
Herbert Hoover (1929-1933)
EO’s 5075-6070
1,011 EO’s issued
33 posted on
12/23/2008 6:03:22 PM PST by
Born In America
(Warning: Use liberals only under close conservative supervision.....)
To: Jerrybob
I’d love for somebody to bring up that the Bill of Rights is a constraint on the government. Second Amendment not allowing the federal government to infringe on our natural right to self-defense. That every federal firearms law is illegal, unlawful and unconstitutional.
36 posted on
12/23/2008 9:07:10 PM PST by
wastedyears
("Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne)
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