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BREAKING -- Berg v Obama - Scheduled for SCOTUS Conference TWICE on Jan 16
US Supreme Court ^ | 12/23/08 | US Supreme Court

Posted on 12/23/2008 12:42:44 PM PST by BP2

No. 08-570
Title:
Philip J. Berg, Petitioner
v.
Barack Obama, et al.
Docketed: October 31, 2008
Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit
  Case Nos.: (08-4340)
Rule 11

~~~Date~~~  ~~~~~~~Proceedings  and  Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oct 30 2008 Petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment filed. (Response due December 1, 2008)
Oct 31 2008 Application (08A391) for an injunction pending the disposition of the petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Souter.
Nov 3 2008 Supplemental brief of applicant Philip J. Berg filed.
Nov 3 2008 Application (08A391) denied by Justice Souter.
Nov 18 2008 Waiver of right of respondents Federal Election Commission, et al. to respond filed.
Dec 1 2008 Motion for leave to file amicus brief filed by Bill Anderson.
Dec 8 2008 Application (08A505) for an injunction pending the disposition of the petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Souter.
Dec 9 2008 Application (08A505) denied by Justice Souter.
Dec 15 2008 Application (08A505) refiled and submitted to Justice Kennedy.
Dec 17 2008 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 9, 2009.
Dec 17 2008 Application (08A505) denied by Justice Kennedy.
Dec 18 2008 Application (08A505) refiled and submitted to Justice Scalia.
Dec 23 2008 Application (08A505) referred to the Court.
Dec 23 2008 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 16, 2009.


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No. 08A505
Title:

Philip J. Berg, Applicant
v.
Barack Obama, et al.
Docketed:
Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit

  Case Nos.: (08-4340)

~~~Date~~~  ~~~~~~~Proceedings  and  Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dec 8 2008 Application (08A505) for an injunction pending the disposition of the petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Souter.
Dec 9 2008 Application (08A505) denied by Justice Souter.
Dec 15 2008 Application (08A505) refiled and submitted to Justice Kennedy.
Dec 17 2008 Application (08A505) denied by Justice Kennedy.

Dec 18 2008 Application (08A505) refiled and submitted to Justice Scalia.
Dec 23 2008 Application (08A505) referred to the Court.
Dec 23 2008 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 16, 2009.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1600penn; bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; creepy; obama; obci; scotus
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To: trumandogz
Wow, the SCOTUS saw The 9/11 Truther Berg’s case to be so important that they scheduled their conference ten days after the Vice President certifies the election and four days before Chief Justice Roberts delivers the oath of office to Obama.

You are more of a truther than Berg. Your inane posts show battiness beyond trutherdom

263 posted on 12/24/2008 1:27:02 AM PST by dennisw (" I’ve abandoned free-market principles to save the free market system ” -President George W. Bush)
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To: Drew68
That's a weak argument and you know it. Blacks would have voted for whoever had a 'D' next to their name and, in fact, supported Hillary over Obama in the beginning only shifting over to Obama when he started to look electable. Remember Obama being criticized by blacks for not being "authentically" black because his ancestors were never brought over as slaves?

What you miss is black turnout was larger than ever...Inspired by a black Presidential candidate of course

We have pre-election voting here and Blacks showed up more than I ever saw before

264 posted on 12/24/2008 1:29:50 AM PST by dennisw (" I’ve abandoned free-market principles to save the free market system ” -President George W. Bush)
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To: MHGinTN
"You may 'feel' his assertions were incorrect but your opinion holds no more wieght than mine."

If I was relying on feelings that would be true. However, I previously posted evidence of factually incorrect assertions by Madison, such as the citizenship laws from 1790 to 1855 that he(?) claimed did not exist. Several times on various threads, and there are persons in this thread who know it. Feel free to go back through my posts and check. The fact that that particular assertion on Madison's site has been deleted further supports my belief that Madison is a Freeper or at least a lurker, an assertion I have previously made on other threads as well. But, on the whole, the substance of Madison's arguments hasn't changed and there are issues there as well, also previously posted by myself and others. As I am occasionally drawn back to his(?) site by posts such as the one on this thread, I do periodically review the changes in the content there, also previously stated on this and other threads. I admit to being anonymous on this forum, but I am no more anonymous than P.A. Madison, and as I have said, I base my evaluation on the content of the presentation, not on the letters around the presenter's name. To be more concise, I do not know who Madison is, but I do know his assertions and conclusions are, in at least some cases, demonstrably false.

265 posted on 12/24/2008 1:30:41 AM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: mlo

“There is nothing in the constitutional requirements for president that requires his parents to be citizens.”

Yes, apparently there is. That is what Donofredo’s case was all about.


266 posted on 12/24/2008 1:32:35 AM PST by Nipfan (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it - H L Mencken)
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To: dennisw
You are more of a truther than Berg.

No, I am not a "9/11 Truther" however, Phil Berg who tried to get George W. Bush and Dick Cheney charged with murder of 3000 for the 9/11 Terrorist Attacks is a Truther.

Once you blame 9/11 of Bush and Cheney, you are dead to me and worthy of respect.

Of course, you may feel differently about Berg's view of President Bush and VP Cheney.

267 posted on 12/24/2008 1:41:05 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Daddynoz
"you have made up your mind."

And you, yours.

"In my opinion, you have abrogated your reponsibility to defend the Constitition against all enemies, foreign and domestic"

If I were to act without first establishing as fact that Obama is an enemy, then if he were not, I would be the enemy. But, when it comes down to who will be in the trenches, if and when it comes to that, we'll see who shows up.

269 posted on 12/24/2008 1:42:30 AM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: calenel

If the Berg Case ever goes before the SCOTUS, which it will not, Obama will claim protection under the Equal Protection Clause in that he is being held to a higher scrutiny than previous presidents. He would likely win.


270 posted on 12/24/2008 1:47:45 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Nipfan
"Yes, apparently there is. That is what Donofredo’s case was all about."

Without some comment from the SCOTUS we cannot know why they have done anything, or not done anything, with Donofrio's case. They may agree to deal with it in some fashion, or they may be having a good chuckle over coffee. We just don't know.

271 posted on 12/24/2008 1:50:25 AM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: little jeremiah
Why would you attribute that quote to me when in fact I never wrote or said that?

All you say is “get used to it, he won fair and square, he’ll be sworn in, and anyone who doubts his legitimacy is the madman and fool, no flies on 0bama!”

But if you want to quote me you are free to do so, but please do not make things up out of thin air.

272 posted on 12/24/2008 1:51:27 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Daddynoz

Try using less insult, more upstanding civility... it works better that way. And, remember, we have many youngsters here that need good examples.

Tx


273 posted on 12/24/2008 1:51:28 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: little jeremiah
And why does Berg’s idiocy make the rest of his life useless, when you give 0bama a pass on every bit of skullduggery, lies, racist “church” and all the rest? That’s perfectly okay?

Can you please find a quote of mine where I gave Obama a pass on his church, polices or anything else except for my belief that he is a natural born citizen?

276 posted on 12/24/2008 1:54:37 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
"If the Berg Case ever goes before the SCOTUS, which it will not, Obama will claim protection under the Equal Protection Clause in that he is being held to a higher scrutiny than previous presidents. He would likely win. "

Not on that basis. An argument could easily be made that Arthur was subjected to similar scrutiny when his eligibility was questioned. And, again, successful fraud (if there was) would not set any sort of precedent, but rather justify increased scrutiny as an appropriate remedy.

277 posted on 12/24/2008 1:55:02 AM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: Drew68

“OK, you just explained that Arnold Schwarzenegger, for example, can be a Senator but not President. This has already been satisfactorily established and is not debated by anyone.

This has nothing to do with Obama.”

Why is that? If Obama was born in Kenya then the only difference between him and Schwarzenegger is that Obama has one American parent. Otherwise, their situations are identical.


278 posted on 12/24/2008 1:58:14 AM PST by Nipfan (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it - H L Mencken)
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To: Uncle Chip
Oh please, you truly are out of touch with the Constitution, the law, and ...

The funny thing is that lots of people say that they know what natural born citizen means, but not one person has found natural born citizen defined in the Constitution, Case Law or Legislation.

Perhaps, you should give it a shot.

279 posted on 12/24/2008 1:58:33 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: calenel

The 14th Amendment has given us Roe and Plyler.

Plyler granted Constitutional Protections to Illegal Aliens.

So, if they were willing to give Constitutional Protections to illegal aliens, they would have no problem with granting EP to Obama.


280 posted on 12/24/2008 2:03:13 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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