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Does it pay to play by the rules? [Hell no!]
Bankrate ^ | 2008-12-19 | Jay MacDonald

Posted on 12/21/2008 10:33:43 AM PST by rabscuttle385

Everywhere you look these days, someone is being rewarded for bad behavior.

Wall Street bankers, hedge fund managers, mortgage lenders, even homeowners who knowingly bought homes they couldn't afford -- all have abandoned the moral high ground and are now heading down to bailout town, where the fat cats dine.

With bailouts seemingly blowing in the wind, it's hard not to feel like a chump for being fiscally responsible.

Does it still pay to play by the rules?

Peter Schiff, president and chief global strategist of Connecticut-based brokerage firm Euro Pacific Capital, believes government policies are undermining people who behave well, while rewarding those who are irresponsible.

The government is sending out the wrong message by letting everyone involved in this financial folly -- lenders and borrowers alike -- escape the consequences of their actions, says Schiff.

"People say, 'Oh, this isn't fair that people have to suffer,'" he says. "Well, yes it is; they made their bed, now they have to lie in it."

(Excerpt) Read more at bankrate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: bailout; bailoutnation; corruption; crime; economy; financialcrisis; mommystate; panicof2008; peterschiff
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U.S. Government social engineering at its finest.
1 posted on 12/21/2008 10:33:44 AM PST by rabscuttle385
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*Ping!*
2 posted on 12/21/2008 10:34:29 AM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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3 posted on 12/21/2008 10:34:56 AM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

I just got a call from the RNC, asking for a donation. I told the kid on the phone to tell the RNC Chair that Bush’s bailout was the final straw. They were never getting another dime from me unless and until they began once again standing up for the free market.

The kid admitted he was hearing that a lot these days.


4 posted on 12/21/2008 10:37:44 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

5 posted on 12/21/2008 10:38:09 AM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385

Marriage Penalty comes to mind.


6 posted on 12/21/2008 10:38:56 AM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

As one of those who played by the rules, I have a small nest egg put away in savings and CD’s.

Printing money like it is going out of style will cause inflation ,which will steal that small nest egg as surely as any thief.


7 posted on 12/21/2008 10:41:16 AM PST by Venturer
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To: rabscuttle385

ping


8 posted on 12/21/2008 10:41:50 AM PST by unkus
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I stopped getting RNC calls...I registered as an (I) last year.


9 posted on 12/21/2008 10:45:27 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: rabscuttle385

Of COURSE it pays to play by the rules! You just haven’t been aware of what the REAL rules were...


10 posted on 12/21/2008 10:45:54 AM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: rabscuttle385
William Krystal wrote an article in the Weekly Standard (Beyond Bloom & Gloom) November 24th issue. A reader of the Weekly Standard Corresponded in the December 22 issue, Peter Skurkiss stated the following about the article and it is a most accurate statement: I agree with Kristol when he writes that the challenge for the GOP over the next four years will be “to figure out how to save capitalism from its own worst aspects and most damaging tendencies”. The answer is both simple and difficult. The simple part is observing that we, as a society, must be in accord with Judeo-Christian ethics for capitalism to survive. This is especially so for the elite. But when secularism is the de facto state religion, a Darwinian survival of the fittest philosophy prevails and poisons everything. This leads to uncontrolled greed. The difficulty comes in trying to figure out how to convert our elites to the faith that they, as a class, have long abandoned.
11 posted on 12/21/2008 10:48:08 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Yea and could really give a rats ass


12 posted on 12/21/2008 10:49:03 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; All

I’m glad they don’t have my phone number, but for those of you who are sick of their junk mail, I offer the following:

They finally stopped sending me their crap after I Freeped their buildings (310-320 First Street SE and 425 2nd ST NE) using the great DC chapter Freep techniques. It’s really as much fun freeping these RINOs as it is freeping Code Pinko or the Dems.

These RINO suits are in business for the money, to become Congressional staffers, and eventually, to hold office as they vote for pork, illegal immigrants, Sara Brady style gun control, etc.

One of the best digs I used: At Republican Senatorial Hqtrs (425 2nd ST), they were holding a Friday afternoon beer and b-b-q outside the building in a courtyard. From the sidestreet, I could see a bunch of placques on the cement wall (presumably for donors). I yelled “How many Wheaties box tops do I need to get one of those placques?” They were visibly uncomfortable—Ignore him! Say nothink to him! (Col Klink imitation)

When I got home on Monday, I wrote a letter with my name and address telling them I was the guy outside their offices the past Friday. I suggested that they REALLY might not want to send me their junkmail “surveys,” “charter member” certificates, etc. ad nauseum. I got their attention after at least three letters and three phone calls to them did not. Few things are more annoying than phone solicitations so I say to all—annoy them right back!

F ‘em!!!!!


13 posted on 12/21/2008 10:50:23 AM PST by GunsareOK
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To: rabscuttle385

I LOATHE the term “social engineering”

Engineering is, by definition, based on things that work.


14 posted on 12/21/2008 10:51:44 AM PST by null and void (Hindsight is 2020, foresight is 2012)
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To: rabscuttle385
Maybe in the short term there's some reward for bad behavior, but I believe that ultimately this won't be the case.

For example, in the past I'm sure that my own reputation was considered much less that Madoff's.

I bet it's not today. And a good reputation is a prerequisite for good opportunity.

The Madoff's of the world can have their ill-gotton gains - I'll stick with my reputation.

15 posted on 12/21/2008 10:52:31 AM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: rabscuttle385

It is too early to set up a mass meeting in Washington and drag out naked all the politicians. People are not ready at present. However, we can start thinking about it. How precisely do we move hundreds of thousands into DC? How to feed them etc. How do we deal with the rapid strike brigade the corrupt pols are bringing home to protect themselves? Lots of questions need answers. In short, people need to start thinking the unthinkable.


16 posted on 12/21/2008 10:53:26 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: rabscuttle385

What a badly written article. The author sets up Schiff then offers three dissenting views, two of which actually support his claims if you follow consistent logic. The other guy just offers ‘I think’ and ‘I believe’ with no backup.


17 posted on 12/21/2008 10:53:47 AM PST by ovrtaxt (It is better for civilization to be going down the drain than to be coming up it. ~Henry Allen)
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To: rabscuttle385

all those responsible people who have been biting the bullet and paying their mortgages, high interest rates and all, and haven’t been late, the govt. is basically giving the finger too. or people like me, who knew i couldn’t afford a house and have been renting.

it’s the same with the illegal immigrants. steal id, or use fake papers, given a get-out-of-jail-free pass. your ave. meth-head or criminal that happens to be a citizen and steals id or uses fake papers, you get time in jail.

i’m disgusted by it all.

unlike a lot of talking heads, homeowners share the responsibility for this mess. greediness all the way around.


18 posted on 12/21/2008 10:55:30 AM PST by machogirl (taglines are like shoes: if you're a gal, you can never have too many)
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We are a banana republic. Don’t kid yourselves otherwise. Our current economic model isn’t the Great Depression or Japan in the 90s, it’s modern day Argentina.


19 posted on 12/21/2008 10:58:57 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: rabscuttle385
Those who participate in the [SMP] program also must sign a form stating that they didn't deliberately default on their mortgage simply to qualify for the benefit.

Oooooooooh, a signed form!

I'm sure people who deliberately signed legal mortgage loan docs they knew they couldn't meet are really going to be intimidated by a "I swear I'll play by the rules this time" signed form.

20 posted on 12/21/2008 11:01:02 AM PST by Libertarian444
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