[J Aguilar]

Indeed. It is a very sensitive issue because, as it often occurs, a word does not mean the same at both sides of the pond.

Moreover, it seems Spanish masons split up in different groups. Some of them have been interviewed even on COPE.

I think Mr. Vidal has all that on mind and points out to a concrete obedience and its branches in Spain.

IMHO, they simply reflect the kind of society in which they are rooted.

[marron]

Napoleón pretendía crear, valiéndose de la masonería, una quinta columna que corroyera España desde dentro y que la facilitara su dominio por parte de Francia. Algo más de seis años después de la constitución de aquella primera logia masónica en Francia, Napoleón invadió España y, de manera bien significativa, los traidores más destacados se encontraron en las capas superiores de la pirámide social española.

As I say, the men who organized the American Revolution were also mostly masons. I think that this is because masonry, being a secret society, lended itself easily to conspiratorial planning.

As for the rest, it sounds as if modern Spanish masonry is almost completely godless. Our Democratic Party would probably agree with everything in Vidal's list, not because they are masons, but its because its a largely godless party. Then again, they do not agree with the founding principles of this country, and the founding documents are like tissue to them, to be used and tossed aside.

Zapatero would fit right in here, in an Obama administration, and Obama would fit right into Zapatero's administration as well. They are like long lost brothers.

What this means is that both Spain, nominally a catholic country, and the United States, which has long claimed to be founded "under God", have come dangerously close to losing their moorings. They are both ripe and in crying need for a spiritual awakening. They are both in need of evangelizing. We have always sent evangelists around the world; the next wave of evangelists need to come to our two countries.