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Obama Pledge Stirs Hope in Early Education
New York Times ^ | December 16, 2008 | Sam Dillon

Posted on 12/21/2008 7:25:20 AM PST by reaganaut1

[T]he $10 billion Mr. Obama has pledged for early childhood education would amount to the largest new federal initiative for young children since Head Start began in 1965. Now, Head Start is a $7 billion federal program serving about 900,000 preschoolers.

“People are absolutely ecstatic,” said Cornelia Grumman, executive director of the First Five Years Fund, an advocacy group. “Some people seem to think the Great Society is upon us again.”

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Now that new initiatives seem likely, experts are debating how best to improve America’s early childhood system, which they call fantastically fragmented, unconscionably underfinanced and bureaucratically bewildering. Some hesitate to use the word “system” at all.

“It’s a patchwork quilt, a tossed salad, a nonsystem,” said Libby Doggett, executive director of Pre-K Now, a group that presses for universal, publicly financed prekindergarten.

There are federal and state, public and private, for-profit and nonprofit programs. Some unfold in public school classrooms, others in storefront day care centers, churches or Y.M.C.A.’s, and still others in tiny centers run out of private homes.

“California has 22 different funding streams for child care and preschool, and that mirrors the crazy labyrinth of funding sources coming out of Washington,” said Bruce Fuller, an education professor at the University of California, Berkeley, who is the author of “Standardized Childhood: The Political and Cultural Struggle Over Early Education.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agenda; bhoeducation; earlychildhood; ece; education; headstart; homeschooling; preschool; universalpreschool
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To: ari-freedom

In a time of falling tax revenues, the govt will massively increase spending.

Uh, something wrong with that, just can’t put my finger on it.

Seemed like a good idea, but it didn’t work for me in my life. Just can’t figure out why not. Works for govt but not me me. Duh?


41 posted on 12/21/2008 8:36:08 AM PST by OldArmy52 (Bush now a Socialist. Who'd a thunk?)
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To: kenavi
What is our goal for which we are spending billions at the Federal level?

I think we all know the asnwer to that, and it isn't good

42 posted on 12/21/2008 8:37:30 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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To: reaganaut1
Taxpayer-funded "free" preschool will do nothing for families that want to keep their young children at home. (Of course, SAHMs *do* take their kids to libraries, playgrounds, etc.)

These aren't the children who need taxpayer-funded preschool.

The children who need it are those whose parents never read to them, never talk to them, perhaps regard them merely as additions to the welfare check, and are too busy with social life and drugs to pay much attention to the babies period.

Well run childrens' homes might be a better idea.

43 posted on 12/21/2008 8:41:27 AM PST by Amelia
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44 posted on 12/21/2008 8:42:14 AM PST by Amelia
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

45 posted on 12/21/2008 8:47:21 AM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: reaganaut1

They want you kids earlier it seems. Head start has done crap if it was “needed” from 1965 to now. I’d tell Obama where to stick it.


46 posted on 12/21/2008 8:48:38 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: Doc Savage
May I be so bold as to suggest people get an education or trade, get a job, earn money, get married, have children and then PAY to have them enrolled in a school or stay at home and take care of them yourself! Liberals are puke!

Agreed. We do need to go back to schools where they actually taught stuff and used the McGuffy Reader. Fat chance of that happening. The Three R's are "Recycling, Reproduction and Remit" your money to the government.
47 posted on 12/21/2008 8:53:34 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: Bon mots

Obama Pledge Stirs Hope in Early Education

Earlier indoctrination. Get those little minds “right” while they still can.


48 posted on 12/21/2008 8:57:15 AM PST by benasawin
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To: ari-freedom; stockpirate
the problem is they want public schools...as long as they are run by conservatives. They are useful idiots because they keep the entire system in place.
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We have so-called “conservatives” here on Free Republic who **love** their child's government indoctrination camps.

Marxism is our nation's **most** serious threat and government K-12 schools are their **most** important weapon.

Unless conservatives get find free alternatives to get kids out of the government schools and destroy the government K-12 system or nation is doomed. ( I seriously mean it.)

49 posted on 12/21/2008 9:07:01 AM PST by wintertime
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To: SteamShovel
And here's the thing: these Daycares, Preschools, Tiny Happy Lovable Centers, whatever, will be paid for by everybody, but used only by people whose values aren't offended by letting their kids be raised by the State. Every husband and wife who make big sacrifices every day in order to raise their own kids their own way, will in addition be forced to pay for the people who ferry their kids at the dawn's early light to the Public Facility.

It amounts to a fine on raising your own kids.

But hey! No problem! Just put ALL the little boys and little girls in the Little Hope Day Orphanage. It's Enightened. Compassionate. Progressive. It's the Obama-Patriotic thing to do.

50 posted on 12/21/2008 9:14:35 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Every system is perfectly designed to get the results it gets." - Isaac Asimov)
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To: reaganaut1
[T]he $10 billion Mr. Obama has pledged for early childhood education would amount to the largest new federal initiative for young children since Head Start began in 1965. Now, Head Start is a $7 billion federal program serving about 900,000 preschoolers.

Marxists want to indoctrinate children as early an age as possible, so they are prepared to take their place in the new system. Why should the biological parents have to teach their children when the government can do it better?

51 posted on 12/21/2008 9:19:05 AM PST by olezip
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To: reaganaut1
Yet another reason to

Homeschool!


52 posted on 12/21/2008 9:58:29 AM PST by upchuck (Get ready for 2009: Pray; Raise/conserve cash; Pay your debts; Pray; Stockpile; Buy ammo; Pray)
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To: Bon mots
They are for the most part unable to adequately educate school age children. Now they want them as young as possible to indoctrinate them with a bunch of PC crap. It's the curriculum and poor parenting not the kids or how early you enroll them in school.
53 posted on 12/21/2008 11:13:37 AM PST by mimaw
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To: Las Vegas Ron

#8 is wrong


54 posted on 12/21/2008 11:42:37 AM PST by 4woodenboats
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To: 4woodenboats

I’m sure an answer like that would have gotten a passing grade too, lol


55 posted on 12/21/2008 11:55:25 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Actually, it is wrong. Waters on the east coast of continents are warmer as currents tend to rotate clockwise.

On the west coast, the currents bring water down from Alaska after moving up Russia, Bering Sea, etc.

On the East coast, the water is moving upward from the warm waters of the Gulf Stream. It's why hurricanes never get very far north on the West Coast.

56 posted on 12/21/2008 12:12:26 PM PST by 4woodenboats
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To: reaganaut1

Save the money. Let private enterprise take care of early childhood education.

The kids can start in kindergarten.


57 posted on 12/21/2008 12:13:56 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Bon mots

I didn’t know until a couple of weeks ago that many schools don’t teach cursive writing any longer. How are they supposed to read it if they can’t write it? Is everyone else supposed to start printing?! I’m still dumbfounded by that!


58 posted on 12/21/2008 12:17:55 PM PST by kcvl
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To: 4woodenboats
I'm not an expert meteorology nor ocean temperatures but keep in mind the test is over 100 years old.

It may have been thought to have been accurate at the time with the measuring equipment that was available then.

Actually, time changes things, it may have very well been a fact a 100 years ago.

That being said, it really wasn't the reason I posted it to begin with. It illustrates that the kids were actually taught to think and learn as compared to what they are taught today, which is not much.

After all, despots wouldn't be able to control people who would question them and their intentions or logic, would they?

59 posted on 12/21/2008 12:34:17 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
I think one of the most detrimental changes from way back when is that teachers not only don't teach to do problems in your head, you'd get marked down if you do.

My grandmother was a whiz at math, and could multiply huge numbers in her head. She was appalled that my teachers wouldn't allow it.

"How the heck do they expect your brain to grow?" she'd rant.

Inversely, they no longer teach kids to "sound out" words to learn spelling.

That test was indicative of a much more complete education than what's offered now, or when I went to school.

60 posted on 12/21/2008 1:39:47 PM PST by 4woodenboats
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