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Mitt Romney : A Republican Stimulus Plan
National Review ^ | Dec 19,2008 | Mitt Romney

Posted on 12/20/2008 3:09:04 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Finny
Excellent summary criticizing the 'hot air', Finny.

Best of the BS is here:

Romney: "The Fed should continue to expand the money supply.
... We should also invest ... in ... combustion..."

Romney suggests printing more money and studying fire.


241 posted on 12/23/2008 10:10:30 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Finny
whoa! some serious attempts to dialogue. thank you, wish I had time to chat. I am in cleaning mode for Christmas.

and I am through with all the losers who let McCain sail into the Republican nominee slot. Sarah was a breath of fresh air and those career politicians were too fond of the smoke filled back rooms of Washington to welcome her. I am not a Romney lover, but we have to stop tearing everyone down and find something positive to say.....whether it be a policy, idea, candidate or party.

242 posted on 12/23/2008 10:17:20 AM PST by tioga (Merry Christmas!)
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To: tioga
Merry Christmas, tioga, and may you and yours have a healthy and prosperous 2009!

I beg to differ on one point of your post above: You say, we have to stop tearing everyone down and find something positive to say.....

NO, now is the time to tear moderate big-government liberal Republicans down. We must purge the party of them when they threaten to attempt to "lead" the party direction. The admonition to "play nice" belongs on a kindergarten playround. It belongs far, far away from defending the freedom of America. Part of defending American freedom is chasing and hounding the big-government Mitt Romneys of the world out of the Republican party.

243 posted on 12/23/2008 10:30:37 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Finny

Reagan took the stage with a positive message.....yes, he said “tear down that wall”.....but he was not all negative and fighting. I see too much of that on FR. A positive message can purge us of the negative without fighting and alienating each other. and we need to unite and tear down the dems proposals and ideas with our own. we have a common enemy and it isn’t romney or mccain, it’s obama.


244 posted on 12/23/2008 10:40:12 AM PST by tioga (Merry Christmas!)
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To: tioga
It is wrong and a big mistake to confer legitimacy on a "conservative" who clearly, plainly, demonstrably fails to grasp Reagan's message that government isn't the solution, it's the problem. You seem to want to make this mistake because you're afraid that people might think you're mean otherwise. Romney is negative for conservatism in every sense. It's destructive to pretend otherwise.
245 posted on 12/23/2008 10:53:42 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Finny

It appears that you categorize everything Romney proposed in one of three ways:

A) You agree with it, but because it is from him, you dismiss it as “gratuitous” and “obvious” (aka, ad hominem). (points 1, 4, 6, 8, and 9)

B) You reinterpret it, by assigning your own implied “code phrases”, and then argue against your own interpretation of what Romney said (also known as straw man argument). (points 1, 3, 5)

C) Or, you flat disagree. (points 2, 7)

All in all, if you could get over your hatefest, it would seem you actually agree with more of Romney’s proposed points than you disagree with.


246 posted on 12/23/2008 11:28:36 AM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: Finny

I choose not to argue with fellow conservatives........it’s petty and accomplishes little. Proceed if you wish.


247 posted on 12/23/2008 11:51:50 AM PST by tioga (Merry Christmas!)
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To: Finny
...Thompson (whom I passionately supported with money and voice)...

Um, you just proved my point.

248 posted on 12/23/2008 12:44:17 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: rintense

Maybe you missed the “and/or” part of what I posted.


249 posted on 12/23/2008 12:45:12 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: Finny

“”Republicans should also lay down a gauntlet: All new spending projects””

How about NO NEW spending projects Mitt!


250 posted on 12/23/2008 5:08:11 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Finny

Recently, Sen. John McCain joined whackjob Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) in issuing a report accusing Donald Rumsfeld, former Defense Department General Counsel Jim Haynes, and David Addington, Vice President Cheney’s chief of staff, of causing the torture of terrorist detainees.

McCain actually insinuated that Rumsfeld could be criminally liable for this “torture” of terrorists.

Yet blind-as-bat “conservatives” on FR are obsessed over Romney..... when McCain has done 500 times more damage to the conservative movement and to the US than Romney ever did in his worst day.

Obsessed anti-Romney types are more outraged over a few comments the man made years ago .... when the REAL outrage should be directed at McCain -— the candidate who set conservatism and AMERICA back 50 years.


251 posted on 12/23/2008 7:25:43 PM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: Diogenesis
Every single point in your post is a lie.

As you said conservatives don't lie...ergo, you're no conservative. : )

252 posted on 12/23/2008 10:59:19 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The US is now a Bamana Republic!)
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To: La Enchiladita

Check out post #237.


253 posted on 12/23/2008 11:01:03 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The US is now a Bamana Republic!)
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To: Finny
It is people like YOU who so viciously and hatefully destroy their own, who give Republicans a bad name. Interesting that you only listen to SOME of what Ronald Reagan has to say.

Since he was out campaigning for John McCain, and therefore on team McCain/Palin, how would it have looked if Romney publicly disagreed with McCain about the bailout?

Note: Romney disagrees with the auto bailout.

Since failing companies and turning them around are Romney's forte, I think he's well aware of the perils of government intervention and Ronald Reagan's maxim (of everything he said the following is the phrase I heard most often from Mr. Reagan and can still well picture and hear him saying it, "Government is not the solution to the problem...Government IS the problem.").

You're assessment of Romney is incorrect. That IS your problem.

Why don't you send a letter to Ronald Reagan's son and lecture him about his positive assessment and support of Romney using his father's famous maxim. I'll bet you'd win him over with THAT one/sarc..lol!

I'm not a big fan of Fred Thompson's. His personality was/is frankly to dull and he was/is too lacking in energy to attract enough of the non-conservative vote to win him the presidency for starters. But my dislike for him would never prompt me to claim he wasn't conservative, nor would I spend hours on threads, ripping him to shreds. My points regarding him were made in several posts and thereafter I moved on. By far the vast majority of my time has been spent promoting the candidate I supported and still support, Mitt Romney.

Promoting your candidate is a far better way to spend your time, than to waste it destroying another man's candidate. All the posters on this thread who've made that point have it exactly right.

If Romney couldn't have been president, all else remaining the same, I wish it were Fred, or McCain or even Huck, I was complaining about now, rather than Obama. How about you? Would you take Romney over Obama?

254 posted on 12/23/2008 11:50:25 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The US is now a Bamana Republic!)
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To: Finny
"NO, now is the time to tear moderate big-government liberal Republicans down. We must purge the party of them when they threaten to attempt to "lead" the party direction. The admonition to "play nice" belongs on a kindergarten playround. It belongs far, far away from defending the freedom of America. Part of defending American freedom is chasing and hounding the big-government Mitt Romneys of the world out of the Republican party."

Dr. Thomas Sowell is deadly opposed to these bailouts and government intervention. Yet Romney (as well as one or two others) was an acceptable candidate to him. How could that possibly be?

255 posted on 12/24/2008 12:04:42 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The US is now a Bamana Republic!)
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To: TAdams8591
Every post critical of shapeshifting, backstabing, RINO
Romney has been true.
You are unable to rebut a single thing. So you post your name-calling.
Impressive. Not.

Team Romney will be remembered for its attacks on Gov.Palin and her children.

256 posted on 12/24/2008 3:51:52 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: LexBaird
You talk about my "hate" instead of about Romney's words. Proving my point. I knew you wouldn't opt to talk issues -- you can't because Romney's own words run counter to limited government conservative principle.

So you're left with accusing me of a "hatefest." Just like I thought.

257 posted on 12/24/2008 8:26:39 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: La Enchiladita
No, you proved mine -- I'm not trying to resurrect Thompson's candidacy, playing crybaby because he lost, or blaming Obama/McCain's candidacies on those who didn't vote for him.

Romney supporters, on the other hand ...

258 posted on 12/24/2008 8:29:06 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Edit35

No discusson about Romney’s actual words and his proposal here because they run counter to limited government conservative principle. Instead, you toss a red herring into the mix to distract from the point at hand. You respond to my discussion of Romney by lambasting McCain ... whom I didn’t support and did not vote for in the primary.


259 posted on 12/24/2008 8:31:55 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: TAdams8591
You need to read Michael Reagan's actual words. He said some nice things about Romney in a column almost two years ago, words that are often quoted here by Romney supporters ...

... Who conveniently leave out the words immediately following, which have as high a praise for Rudy Giuliani. You LIE and MISLEAD when you imply that Reagan saw or sees Romney as a next Great Hope for the GOP. On the other hand, I notice you forget to mention that Reagan wrote of Palin that "his Dad was back!" He loves Palin.

Don't have time right now to respond to the rest of your post. Don't tell lies about Michael Reagan.

260 posted on 12/24/2008 8:35:19 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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