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Annoying ordinance passed in Brighton
Livingston Daily ^ | December 19, 2008 | Jim Totten

Posted on 12/20/2008 5:08:22 AM PST by Past Your Eyes

Don’t annoy someone in Brighton city or you might get a ticket.

The Brighton City Council approved a more stringent code for public conduct, and those who violate the rules – including annoying someone else – could be ticketed and fined. The ordinance was modeled after one in Royal Oak, where Brighton Police Chief Tom Wightman previously was employed.

One of the sections reads, “It shall be unlawful for a person to engage in a course of conduct or repeatedly commit acts that alarm or seriously annoy another person and that serve no legitimate purpose.”

Another section states, “It shall be unlawful for any person in the city to insult, accost, molest or otherwise annoy, either by word of mouth, sign or motions any person in any public place.”

Two City Council members expressed concerns about the ordinance but ended up voting for it.

Council member Jim Bohn said some of the language was subjective.

“I’m not sure what alarm or seriously annoy means,” Bohn said.

Council member Jim Muzzin asked if he were to stand up and read “War and Peace,” during his five-minute limit at call to the public at numerous meetings, “would I be ticketed or fined?”

Paul Burns, city attorney, responded no.

Burns said City Council chambers are considered a “bastion of democracy” and the law provides a wide breath for free speech. Burns said there could be a situation where a ticket issued violates someone’s free speech, but he said his office would be reviewing these cases.

City Manager Dana Foster said enforcement would be a subjective call made by police officers. However, Foster said the rules are aimed at those who interfere in public areas as opposed to residents who are simply annoying for annoyance’s sake.

The amended ordinance takes effect 15 days from approval, which is Jan. 2, 2009.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: annoy; brighton; conduct; sign
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To: Past Your Eyes; grellis

Michigan ping?


21 posted on 12/20/2008 5:36:21 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Past Your Eyes

I am guilty everyday as is almost everyone else that I know, but I have no money left after paying my taxes & fees. I guess I will have to be put in jail for my crimes. Sadly it seems that we are reaching the tipping point, I hope thet we can still get back to some sanity.


22 posted on 12/20/2008 5:37:57 AM PST by certrtwngnut (go to you tube @see screw the state of n.j.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Oh, I’ve been to Brighton in England. I was very lucky to share the weekend I had to spend there with some sort of British biker convention. British bikers are not like American bikers-—LOL!


23 posted on 12/20/2008 5:41:43 AM PST by basil (Support the 2nd Amendment--buy another gun today)
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To: Past Your Eyes

I bet Imams calling for the decapitation of all non-Muslim Brits won’t get a ticket.


24 posted on 12/20/2008 5:42:01 AM PST by samtheman
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To: basil; Past Your Eyes

I was wrong. It’s in the USA.


25 posted on 12/20/2008 5:42:21 AM PST by aculeus
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To: basil

Michigan


26 posted on 12/20/2008 5:43:09 AM PST by realdifferent1 (We've tried the soap box, jury box and ballot box. Only one box left and it's time to use it.)
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To: Beagle8U; Noahs Rook; stayathomemom; basil; AnAmericanMother
Whoops, right you all are. Apologies to the ghost of George IV... but it was an easy mistake. As for Brighton, eppur si puzza.
27 posted on 12/20/2008 5:43:51 AM PST by Tenniel2 ("When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one" -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Tenniel2
Okay--thanks. We all now know that there is a Brighton in MI and that this news report is about Brighton MI!

If the poster (long forgotten by me) would have mentioned this, we wouldn't have had our nice conversation and we'd all be the poorer wouldn't we?

I love freepers!

28 posted on 12/20/2008 5:47:45 AM PST by basil (Support the 2nd Amendment--buy another gun today)
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To: Tenniel2
Galileo must have visited the place.

Oh, well, it was an honest mistake. I should check links.

29 posted on 12/20/2008 5:52:10 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary - recess appointment))
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To: basil

Tell me about British bikers!


30 posted on 12/20/2008 5:52:37 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary - recess appointment))
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To: basil

Brighton is 40 miles west of Detroit, and 20 miles north of Ann Arbor.


31 posted on 12/20/2008 5:53:26 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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To: basil
it would be interesting to know where Brighton is.

A bit north of Ann Arbor. Right up US 23.

32 posted on 12/20/2008 5:54:37 AM PST by MichiganConservative (You are a slave. The government is your owner and master. For many slaves, it is also their god.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
"It shall be unlawful for any person in the city to insult, accost, molest or otherwise annoy, either by word of mouth, sign or motions any person in any public place.”

Does this include passing and enforcing stupid laws?

33 posted on 12/20/2008 6:11:11 AM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: basil

Brighton is in the mountains of Michigan snuggled next to Mt. Brighton.


34 posted on 12/20/2008 6:13:10 AM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: MichiganConservative

Hey, I used to live there in the 70’s as a lad.


35 posted on 12/20/2008 6:15:03 AM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Carpe Cerevisi
What the heck kind of flag is that?

A crescent moon next to a fig tree.

Shouldn't there be a big red "X" across the whole thing?

36 posted on 12/20/2008 6:19:25 AM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: basil

I will accept 20 or more lashes with a wet noodle for not saying that this article was about Brighton, Michigan. Since most people are not annoyed, I shouldn’t have to go to gaol, should I?


37 posted on 12/20/2008 6:19:42 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (All points of view tolerated...as long as they agree with mine.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
This will never pass muster by any jurist who believes in the Constitution.

From comments to the article at the source:

U.S. Supreme Court
COATES v. CITY OF CINCINNATI, 402 U.S. 611 (1971)

Decided June 1, 1971

MR. JUSTICE STEWART delivered the opinion of the Court.

A Cincinnati, Ohio, ordinance makes it a criminal offense for "three or more persons to assemble . . . on any of the sidewalks . . . and there conduct themselves in a manner annoying to persons passing by . . . ." The issue before us is whether this ordinance is unconstitutional on its face.

Declared unconstitutional in 1971.

Where is the legal advice of the city attorney????

See http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/coates.html

38 posted on 12/20/2008 6:24:21 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Past Your Eyes
Mommy, he's touching me - make him stop!
No I'm not.
He's doing it again, Mommy.
No I'm not.
He's almost touching me now!
No I'm not.
Mommy, he won't play with me!
No I'm not.

I've heard this conversation before.

39 posted on 12/20/2008 6:27:13 AM PST by VRWCtaz (Things change. Changes you can believe in change too. Spare change?)
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To: Past Your Eyes
“It shall be unlawful for a person to engage in a course of conduct or repeatedly commit acts that alarm or seriously annoy another person and that serve no legitimate purpose.”

It sounds to me like the entire City Council could be ticketed and fined under this ridiculous ordinance just for passing it!

40 posted on 12/20/2008 6:28:54 AM PST by Pablo64 (Political Correctness is a DISEASE. <==> TRUTH is the CURE.)
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