Preparing for Mumbai

There has been a great deal of discussion about what to carry for an event like Mumbai. Gents, let's think about this. If you happen to be caught up in this at its conclusion, facing a dozen riflemen working together as a unit, and you with your Kel-Tec, what do you think your realistic chances of success are? Being real is not being defeatist, but come on.

Now, at the outset of the event, where there may be only one or two adversaries, it gets a little better in terms of odds. But only a little. You have one advantage and that is the advantage of surprise and one target. They, on the other hand have many avenues of danger to cover, only one which is yours. This will be a rapidly moving fluid situation.

One man was saying that using a cell phone to photograph the bad guys would be good. Pictures of the bad guys on your cell phone? Come on....seriously? If you have the ability to take their picture, you also have the ability to take their life, or GTFOT (get the f*** out of there) so get out of the evidence collecting mindset.

Number two, some guys were discussing carrying a special bag with them with all manner of weapons and gear to facilitate such a fight. Keeping a Bug Out Bag in the office or in the car is a wise move, but I doubt many of us are going to walk around fully kitted out all the time, so I think this will be limited to what you have on your person. Know what....you'll carry your tango bag everywhere until you get sick of it and leave it in the car one day and then, that will be the day and you will fight with what you have on your person anyway.

Those of you with little bitty guns (snubbies and Glock 27s and such), I suggest you rethink your weapon choices. I can run a mini-Glock pretty good, but not as good as a full sized gun. What do I carry? A Glock 22 when at home and a Glock 17 when away. 15 rounds or 17 rounds respectively.

Yes, the bigger gun is harder to hide. Yes, I have to choose my clothing more carefully. Yes, its heavier. All of those things they tell you are true. But when you NEED THE MOTHER F'ING GUN NOW, those uber-comfortable pocket chain guns so popular with the CCW crowd will never allow you to fight as well as a full-sized gun.

Calibers - Please! I will take a 40 or a 9mm over a 45 any day of the week for the simple fact of the matter that I can fight much longer with one than I can with a seven or eight shot weapon. It may have been a caliber edge in 1976 when the only thing going was marginal hollow point ammo, but not today bwana. Ask any of those metro-sexual gun instructors if they want to get shot in the face with my "45 set on stun". Magazine capacity is not an asset, it is a blessing.

Engagement Dynamics - Short range, run and gun, point shooting is an essential skill and must be prioritized for the urban ambush gunfight. However, for anti-terrorist activity, if you find yourself just outside or arm's length with a doped up, combat-trained AK-armed tango, you have already stepped into it. You can still fight, but wouldn't it be far better to be able to ice these monkeys from 25, 50 or even 100 yards?

Read the reports boys. There are folks who had an eye on the action from a distance. "If only I had a gun" was one of the Brit reporters said. The ability to hit out at these distances is not hard at all. But it must be learned and trained. And, your gear must support your ability to do it.

Those uber-court-proof heavy triggers promoted as essential by the lawyer-instructors are trash. Get rid of them. You don't need a hair trigger on your pistol, but you do need a manageable trigger. My Glocks for example all use the standard 5# connector set up and give me a crisp release that is conducive to accuracy. You don't need the 3# target connector, but good heavens don't add one of the abominable New York triggers.

Those big fat close range sights? If you can hit at 100 yards with them, drive on. I cannot, so I use sharply defined black iron sights like the Heines, and the Trijicons. Those of you with eye issues that can't use the irons well enough, invest in one of the Docter red dot sights. Yep....a red dot sight on your pistol. It is small enough to carry around and bright enough that even Mr. Magoo can hit at 100 meters with it.

Another thing - Usually after one of those events I will hear "By golly if I had been there I would have pulled out my custom model 29 and..." That is usually spoken by a guy who hasn't done any physical training since high school, would have a heart attack if he had to run ten feet to cover, and is so out of condition he could not fight his way out of a Sierra Club Tea Party In San Francisco. I'm not trying to offend anyone here but its not just about marksmanship and your ammo choices. If you are already a good shot, you need to get away from the range and into the gym or the street and train your out of shape shooter's body so you will be able to fight not just shoot.

And finally, without which all else is wasted, develop the will to kill. It is hard for some to sneak up on a man and shoot him in the back of the head unannounced, regardless of what the man has done, or is about to do. You need to get over that if you want to be a player at this level. it is not about capturing, or about bringing to justice, or about "stopping the action". it is about getting the drop on a terrorist from a distance, unseen and undetected, putting your sights on his ear, controlling your heartbeat, and then pressing that trigger without a moment's hesitation.

Wow. That was a pretty long stretch. Equating what I wrote with the behavior of some deranged arsonist. You have a curious set of glasses through which you look at things. “My quivering trigger finger”? Good Lord, you do have your panties in a twist. Take a deep breath. I am not, have not and do not promote vigilante behavior. Relax.

Roger, HAA. Wilco. I’ll relax, but don’t you ever relax. Maintain current defcon threat level stancing and simulating. Always take the seat facing the entrance. Always do a full 360 degree scan while walking through the mall or other big public space. Always keep the jacket unzipped for access, but never unzip the tactical-black kevlar vest. Etc. Alert! Aware! Peaceful, but Ready to do Violence! Save that sheep!

And I should not just pick on you and your Cougar(?) son. There’s a bunch of y’all on this thread who “do not promote vigilante behavior” while seeming to be hoping or even praying that some stranger will misbehave badly enough to earn a hail of your righteous bullets. Like the one guy who had trouble deciding whether to go back upstairs and grab his usual hi-cap carry gun and four spare mags for a drive to the convenience store, or if he should risk the trip with only a loaded S&W 29 and three speedloaders. Sheesh!

You seem to have some serious pent up anxiety about this issue as well as firmly established stereotypes. Quite an objective point of view. A couple of situations to keep in mind while you mock me: McDonalds in Killeen TX - 23 killed, 20 wounded, Virginia Tech - 33 dead, 23 wounded, San Ysidro Mcdonalds - 21 dead, 15 injured, Red Lake High School, Columbine, Milwaukee Living Church of God, Capitol Hill Massacre, Tacoma Mall Shooting, etc, etc, etc. All situations in which an armed citizen could have drastically reduced the carnage. So, continue to mock. It does not matter what your opinion is. Oh, BTW, a my son is a student at Washington State University (the Cougars). The reference was made to the original commenter who is an alum. Merry Christmas.

In all the situations you mention, an armed citizen could have drastically reduced, or moderately increased, the carnage. Depends on the citizen. CCW folks have, in the recent past, performed admirably in a couple of mad-gunman emergencies, but past performance is no guarantee of similar future success.

So you go ahead and use your own gun to protect your own self, or your own family. More firepower to you. But don’t try to start sheepdogging me. I’m not your little lamb. In an emergency, I don’t think I’d be inclined to want much help from a lone, armed, self-appointed, civilian volunteer. Joyeux noel.

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