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THE WAR NEXT DOOR
CBS News ^ | Dec. 16, 2008 | Susana Seijas CBS News producer Mexico City

Posted on 12/19/2008 11:02:08 AM PST by AuntB

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To: AuntB
“Let’s hear that figure again: more than $10 billion in cash trickling, in some shape or form, into the Mexican economy.”

The Office of National Drug Control Policy estimates that Mexican drug trafficking organizations are grossing $13.8 billion a year selling drugs to Americans, $8.6 billion from marijuana alone.

21 posted on 12/19/2008 12:37:08 PM PST by SmallGovRepub
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To: RC2

“I have always had a problem with people that will willingly leave their country instead of trying to change things.”

So you have a problem with most of our ancestors who immigrated to this country? I can’t blame people for leaving a war torn country, or a country where they are being persecuted. I could see myself doing the same thing under the right circumstances. If I was a Vietnamese guy back when the Vietnam war was winding down and I had collaborated with the Americans I’d be wanting to get the heck out of Dodge. I wouldn’t stay to try to change things. If I was born in North Korea or Iran or any one of several other rotten countries like that I’d probably be trying to get out, and so would you.


22 posted on 12/19/2008 12:48:52 PM PST by SmallGovRepub
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To: AuntB
I think there’s too much money for those concerned keeping it illegal.

Dittos with no comment....

23 posted on 12/19/2008 1:00:16 PM PST by VanillaBlizzard (Welcome to the USSA (United Socialist States of America))
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To: SmallGovRepub

So you are saying that our ancestors, the guys with the squirel guns, should have layed them down and left? Our original ancestors were sent here as criminals.....shouldn’t be included in your statement. What you can expect from people that come here, and won’t stick up for their own country, is the same thing when things get tough here.


24 posted on 12/19/2008 1:01:15 PM PST by RC2
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To: whitedog57

Exactly, their hideouts are well known. Why not some predator action. Also,, a HARD closing of the border reduces both, the value of the trade routes they are fighting over, AND the spillover into the USA.

Watch for one of the answers to be to penalize American shooters by restricting assault rifles because it will be good for Mexico.


25 posted on 12/19/2008 1:08:38 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Tammy8
“That sounds reasonable, and I personally have no objection to legalizing pot- but that would not solve this problem. The pot smugglers would simply smuggle other drugs. You would have to legalize all drugs and then I imagine they would find something else to smuggle.”

Most of the smuggling activity is concentrated in marijuana smuggling because Americans consume more marijuana than all other illegal drugs combined. The ONDCP estimates that Mexican drug trafficking organizations gross $13.8 billion a year selling drugs to Americans, $8.6 billion from marijuana alone. Next in line is cocaine, at about $3.9 billion a year, then meth at about $1 billion a year, and finally heroin at about $400 million a year. If we took marijuana out of the equation, Mexican organized crime would lose about 62% of their gross revenues. It might even be a greater percentage of their net income because they are only the middlemen for cocaine which must be purchased and imported from South America before being smuggled into this country. Taking marijuana out of the picture would take the lion's share of their income from them. They could all try to smuggle in more cocaine and meth and heroin, but there's really a limited market for these drugs. Only a very small percentage of our population want to mess with these other drugs. On top of that, they're going to have a harder time moving these drugs to begin with if we legalize marijuana. The distribution networks for marijuana are huge and spread out everywhere in this country. When Mexican organized crime wants to move some cocaine or meth or heroin, usually they're going to move it through those existing channels. They offer it to mid level pot dealers who in turn offer it to people who are selling pot on the retail level or those who are supplying the retail dealers. All of that is going to fall apart when pot is legalized. They'll be dealing with a lot fewer people who they can tap to move their hard stuff. They'll still have some connections, like gangs they might deal with that sell drugs on street corners or from crack houses, but they're going to lose most all the little part timers selling a little weed to their friends and a lot of the people they buy their supply from. It's going to become harder for them to move the hard stuff. So what I think is more likely to happen is that we'll see a lot of people involved in the business just get out like we saw happen after alcohol Prohibition and those who remain will be killing each other over what's left of the illegal drug business. In the end these drug trafficking organizations will be a lot smaller.

26 posted on 12/19/2008 1:09:43 PM PST by SmallGovRepub
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To: RC2

Your ancestors may have been sent here as criminals. Mine weren’t. Are you under the impression that most people who came to this country as immigrants were sent here against their will?


27 posted on 12/19/2008 1:14:11 PM PST by SmallGovRepub
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To: SmallGovRepub

Remember Plymouth Rock?


28 posted on 12/19/2008 1:15:06 PM PST by RC2
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To: SmallGovRepub

Try down by the Mexican boarder and see what you get.


29 posted on 12/19/2008 1:16:25 PM PST by RC2
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To: RC2

Okay, then just say what you mean. You have problem with Mexicans coming over here, not with all “people that will willingly leave their country instead of trying to change things.”


30 posted on 12/19/2008 1:36:16 PM PST by SmallGovRepub
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To: AuntB

That is a real suprise, you would think all of the liberal nutcases would keep these news down since they need their drugs to come up with new ways to ruin our country.


31 posted on 12/19/2008 1:44:51 PM PST by GauchoUSA
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To: AuntB
Let me re-write this to more closely match reality.

First, CBS: "Mexico has a serious drug problem these days. So serious that over 5,000 people have died this year due to drug-related violence. More than 5,000 dead. And that number keeps growing every day."

Now, let's clarify: "Mexico has a serious prohibition problem these days. So serious that over 5,000 people have died this year due to prohibition-related violence. More than 5,000 dead. And that number keeps growing every day."

There is nothing inherent in drugs or the production, manufacture and marketing of drugs that leads to violence. The same cannot be said for Prohibitions. Prohibitions always lead to crime, violence, corruption and murder.

With drug prohibition, you can have as much crime and violence as you want, just continue it and just "crack down".

32 posted on 12/19/2008 2:25:19 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Barack Obama, the American Salvador Allende.)
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To: AuntB; ronnyquest; Cvengr; CPT Clay; MNDude; BellStar; bayouranger; stan_sipple; time4good; ...

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


33 posted on 12/20/2008 7:24:14 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations.)
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To: whitedog57

btt


34 posted on 12/20/2008 8:34:14 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: AuntB

marker


35 posted on 12/20/2008 2:43:45 PM PST by JDoutrider (Heading to Galt's Gulch... It is time.)
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To: AuntB

The tally is approaching tha annual black on black murder rate in Las Estados Unitos del Norte


36 posted on 12/20/2008 3:00:22 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Save America......... put out lots of wafarin (it's working))
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To: AuntB

Bumped


37 posted on 12/21/2008 1:51:30 PM PST by winodog
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To: AuntB

Interesting.


38 posted on 01/07/2009 2:25:36 PM PST by patton (SPQA)
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