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Bush Has Made Us Vulnerable
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| 19 dec 08
| MARK HELPRIN
Posted on 12/19/2008 5:07:23 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: Perdogg
In 20 years they will dig up the records and proclaim that Bush was not stupid and did the right stuff.
81
posted on
12/19/2008 9:09:09 AM PST
by
woofie
To: Post5203
ditto....she is the type that if there isn’t any turmoil going on in her life she will create it....
To: Badeye
Your analysis is dead-on.
83
posted on
12/19/2008 9:10:51 AM PST
by
Norman Bates
(Steele for RNC)
To: woofie
In 20 years they will dig up the records and proclaim that Bush was not stupid and did the right stuff. Either that, or he will be remembered forever as the guy who presided over the beginning of the downfall of America.
I'm not sure I want to bet which way it's going to go.
84
posted on
12/19/2008 9:23:24 AM PST
by
jpl
(Episode 44: A New Dope - coming soon to a country near you.)
To: jpl
RE : “GWB is the worst communicator to ever hold the Presidency, “
A couple of short years ago I posted that we need “A conservative that can communicate” and I got a few nasty replies that all we need is a “conservative that can veto”. Well that’s kind of what we got, 2008! So now there are few to-the-death GWB believers here that claim “It’s all the MSM traitors, the stupid public and the conservative turncoats that caused the lossse” as if everyone but them (to the death believers) will go away so we can win elections again with a leader that says AHHH- Well-AHHH- stay the course, AHHH,....”.
85
posted on
12/19/2008 9:24:34 AM PST
by
sickoflibs
(GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
To: Norman Bates
86
posted on
12/19/2008 9:59:24 AM PST
by
Badeye
(There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
To: jpl
One more thought ...
These guys act like GW Bush acted alone in doing what he did....If its all screwed up as they claim how about credit to all the people in his administration, the military, the pentagon, the congress, the CIA, the UN, all the countries that joined us and all of their respective citezens ,leaders etc.? not to mention the people who attacked us and put the whole thing in play...
87
posted on
12/19/2008 10:31:24 AM PST
by
woofie
To: sickoflibs
GWB lost the political war at home and it wasnt just the treasonous press. Let's get one thing straight. The Democrats were running a "shadow government" with their press machine. The daily attacks by the Democrat press were designed to undermine the legitimately elected government.
The media revealed the extent and nature of their involvement in anti-government activities with the Palin attacks, which occurred over an incredibly compressed time frame in September and October.
I've been chronicling media shenanigans here at FR since early 1997, and I've NEVER seen anything like the way they outed themselves as foot soldiers for the Democrat party.
Many of them are trying to crawl back into the "objective" closet now, but many remain proudly "out".
88
posted on
12/19/2008 12:34:40 PM PST
by
an amused spectator
(I am Joe, too - I'm talkin' to you, VBM: The Volkischer Beobachter Media)
To: rellimpank
Helprin's piece is rambling and incoherent. Although he says we must "respond" to the emerging Chinese and Russian threats, he offers not a single specific policy recommendation to deal with those threats.
As for the alleged violations of civil liberties, he is again non-specific. Is he referring to Guantanamo? The rendition program (begun pre-Bush)? The "warrantless" interception of calls from known terrorist telephones? The waterboarding of three captured terrorists (a short-lived technique that was scrapped years before it became a matter of public controversy)? What are these massive violations of civil rights he's talking about?
89
posted on
12/19/2008 12:41:50 PM PST
by
Steve_Seattle
("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
To: MadJack
"I dont know about you but I heard President Bush live on TV telling me to go to the mall and spend money. Ive never heard word one about sacrifice, or victory gardens, or anything else that indicates a national commitment to fighting and finishing this thing."
Well, I heard Bush say that this would be a long fight over many years, that there would be setbacks, that some battles would be fought in secret, and that we had a tenacious enemy of world-wide scope, and that this is not a war with a clear end-date because we are fighting an ideology with fanatical adherents worldwide. Now, to me there's an implicit sacrifice for Americans in all that, and the president doesn't need to spell it out.
As for his comment about going shopping, he was urging Americans not to live in a state of crippling fear and paranoia. Let me refresh your memory - right after 9/11, we had the anthrax scare and the DC sniper, and the public was VERY edgy, even afraid to go out of their homes for routine matters. The president's comment was not some shallow denial of sacrifice, but a necessary reminder that everyday life must go on or the terrorists win. I have my own criticisms of Bush, but I get sick and tired of the back-seat driving. If Bush says Afghanistan, the critics say Iran; if Bush says Iran, the critics say Afghanistan; if Bush says North Korea, the critics say Russia; if Bush says Iraq, the critics say global warming. And on and on.
90
posted on
12/19/2008 12:53:31 PM PST
by
Steve_Seattle
("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
To: slumber1
Did you actually read the piece...? Read the piece? READ THE PIECE?. Boy, you are a newbie. Long time Freepers are able to divine the substance of an article without even reading the headline.
To: hedgetrimmer
You are nothing but a liar. The President has nothing to do with the current state of the economy. Only liberals and idiots believe otherwise.
If not for President Bush the terrorists would have controlled the Middle East and brought horrors that we cannot even imagine.
92
posted on
12/19/2008 12:58:25 PM PST
by
jveritas
(God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
To: an amused spectator
I agree with your assessment.
93
posted on
12/19/2008 1:18:09 PM PST
by
little jeremiah
(Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
To: Grampa Dave
Thanks for the link, Grampa Dave.
Funny how the homosexuals are blind and hateful about every issue.
94
posted on
12/19/2008 1:20:46 PM PST
by
little jeremiah
(Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
To: an amused spectator
A Slobbering Love Affair: The True (And Pathetic) Story of the Torrid Romance Between Barack Obama and the Mainstream Media by Bernard Goldberg (Hardcover - Jan 25, 2009)
95
posted on
12/19/2008 2:08:57 PM PST
by
ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
(I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
To: an amused spectator
I actually read Horowitzs book Shadow Government, so I have no disagreement with your points, and Pelosi focused on GWB like a radar, because that was the big payoff.
A key part of the war is keeping the public on your side, and he did not come close. I dont care how important freepers think Iraq was, if GWB cant make a decent attempt to keep the public on the right side after initial invasion, then screw it, dont go in. If Iraq declared war on us Sept 11 (like Germans did 1941) , then it would have been easy, but they didnt.
Communication is even MORE important because of what you said.
96
posted on
12/19/2008 2:52:13 PM PST
by
sickoflibs
(GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
To: jveritas
You are nothing but a liar. The President has nothing to do with the current state of the economy.
You're very much mistaken. Aren't you from China?
To: Laverne
98
posted on
12/19/2008 4:28:35 PM PST
by
Recovering Ex-hippie
(FREE BLAGO!!! LET HIM SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER!!!)
To: tatsinfla
I know where you are coming from.
The Bush haters have a bigger agenda all along...they hate the US and everything it stands for. Bush was a target for all the lazy, fat and entitled Americans who are also very ignorant from their public education!
99
posted on
12/19/2008 4:30:47 PM PST
by
Recovering Ex-hippie
(FREE BLAGO!!! LET HIM SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER!!!)
To: Le Chien Rouge
you nailed it.
How can you fight a global war with this kind of citizenry?
It will take unfortunately, another major terrorist attack before Americans and the Euroweenies realize what we are up against it.
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