Social issues aside, Pat is stuck in the 1950's, economically. The economic conditions that existed post WWII that allowed someone with a high school education to get a job at an auto plant that would support their family and take them to retirement are gone. The world changed and we can't undo the changes by passing a few laws.
The 1950’s weren’t so bad, my friend.
In the '50s? You mean when America was great, and respected in every corner of the globe, and feared by all enemies, or what was left of them at that point.
You both make good points in posts# 47 and #48, and from both sides of the issue.
Re-framed the issue might be: in this economic `triage’, can these patients be saved, and we have the option of asking—should they be saved?
A month ago we were told that if we didn’t revive Wall Street with tax dollars, we wouldn’t be able to write checks come Christmas. Now the automakers (and UAW) are saying, don’t help us and millions of Americans are out of work. I don’t know what to believe.
Remember -- this is the guy who spent the better part of that primary campaign railing against the "globalist" George H. W. Bush, and presenting himself as an American populist out to save American manufacturing jobs.
And yet he himself was driving around in a MERCEDES-BENZ back then.