Posted on 12/16/2008 8:53:31 AM PST by prismsinc
HOLLYWOOD, Fla. — A little boy's murder that shocked parents everywhere, launched a national television crusade and confounded detectives for more than two decades may finally be solved.
Hollywood police today are expected to identify Ottis Toole as the killer of Adam Walsh, the 6-year old snatched from a Sears store at the Hollywood Mall on July 27, 1981.
Adam's severed head turned up two weeks later in Vero Beach and his body has never been found.
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Many years ago I worked with a small police department in conjunction with a particularly upsetting murder investigation involving a child. The detective assigned to the case never fully recovered from it, and neither did I. Years after, I heard him interviewed on local radio concerning that case. He said “you don’t have to be particularly religious to believe that there’s something out there, and it wants our children.” Not many years after that, two little sisters were taken from their own front yard, and murdered not 2 miles from my home. They were my son’s friends and classmates. As I’ve often said, if the general public were aware of the kind of monsters that brush past them every day, and walk around free as cockroaches, their opinions on crime, punishment, and gun control would would be markedly changed forever.
I lived in Miami when this happened back in 1981 and it kills me just how badly the cops screwed up this case. Otis Toole had been a suspect for a very long time and according to John Walsh, he’d confessed to the murder one last time to his niece while on his deathbed.
What an awful POS. At least he is roasting in hell and won’t steal another life again.
Already dead. But if he never repented of his sins and accepted Christ as his personal savior (truly, not just in worlds), then he is, in fact, spending eternity in Hell, where the worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
“His parents also had to keep the doors locked high up so he could not open the doors as he would run away.”
Mine was normal and we had to do this!! Never will forget the lady cop at 6am who couldn’t decide whether to be stern or understanding. She just didn’t get that my youngest wouldn’t come to her. I didn’t tell her that he didn’t know her!
My daughter and I have already had a discussion about this regarding her little boy. He’s just now walking but is proving to have a very determined nature about it!
In one instance, the child was not real young--probably five or so.
The answer to your question is “yes.”
I just finished reading “Whoever Fights Monsters” by Robert K. Ressler & Tom Shachtman. Ressler was instrumental in developing profiling for the FBI and interviewed a number of serial killers including Manson, Bundy and Dahmer. Lucas stated he had committed murders with Ottis Toole. Here is Ressler’s take on the very large number of murders by Lucas:
“Let’s say your police department in southern Illinois had an unsolved homicide, a young woman raped and knifed to death behind a convenience store, and the signs seemed to point to the murderer having been a transient. You sent the case jacket to the [Texas] rangers... Instead of asking indirect questions to learn whether Lucas had been in Illinois on the dates in question, or whether he’d ever killed anyone near a convenience store, the Rangers asked especially leading qustions of Lucas, questions that gave him the race, sex, and age of the victim, and sometimes even showed him the crime-scene photographs—to jog his memory—then asked him whether he had committed the murder. [What incredibly bad police procedure!!] Lucas was shrewd enough to say no to more than half the cases, but he also said yes to a large percentage.” He would be interviewed by reps from the state, and taken there to visit crime scenes, testify, etc. Closed the books on 210 unsolved murders in 35 states using this flawad procedure.
“In the process, of course, Lucas got to leave his non-air-conditioned cell in Texas for large periods of time...stayed in motels, ate well in restaurants, and was generally treated as a celebrity.” A chaotic sort of convention was held with police from all over the country yelling, screaming competing for cases. Ressler continues: “My impression is that this fiasco was fueled not only by the need of police departments to close their difficult unsolved murder cases but also by the boredom of local policemen” eager for a free trip. He even agreed that he had committed the Jim Jones cyanide murders in Guyana by driving his car there. He thought Guyana was in Louisiana or Texas.
After his romp was exposed by Aynesworth and Henderson of the “Dallas Times Herald” he was intervied by Ressler. “...he did admit that since 1975 he had ‘killed a few’, fewer than 10, perhaps 5. He just wasn’t sure. He had told all those lies in order to have fun, and to show up what he termed the stupidity of the police.”
The FBI now has better systems to assist local police, but what a mess, and there is the question as to how good the police work has been on this poor child’s murder. Who knows how much Ottis Toole’s communications with police were influenced/learned by/from Lucas. Is Toole guilty or are the police again eager to close a murder case?
We are not talking about homosexuality here, we are talking about child murder and possibility of pedophilia. Over 50% of male prisoners engage in sex acts with fellow prisoners. I was doing volunteer work at a prison in the early 1980’s. They knew that AIDS was spread sexually, and that it took 6 months for a new case to show up in tests, but they refused to test and separate new prisoners, or HIV positive prisoners to reduce the spread of AIDS. The black community there now has a very high incidence of AIDS affecting men, woman, wives and children. Also high public medical bills in consequence.
Your experience is noted and the loss of a child to murder is also tragic. My point is this, homosexuality is as intertwined with pedophilia and serial killing as islam is to terrorism. It’s not always connected but you must always be aware.
“Most queers get their start by being sexually abused as a child.”
In one case I knew well, the child was sexually abused by his drinking mother who was furious at her successful businessman, cocaine using husband who was having an affair. The son was the father’s favorite. The boy grew up gay, wanted a loving father figure lover, abused cocaine, had no interest in children, and died of AIDS. I went to the funeral and reception at the very nice home afterwards. The father could not wait to get rid of his guests so he could get drunk. What a waste!!
A few years ago, I was walking into a Target store here in L.A. and I saw a little girl, about three years old, walking all alone in the parking lot and crying. I asked her what was the matter, and all she could say was “Where’s my Mommy?”. I told her to follow me into the store, and I led her right away to the manager. When the mother was paged, she showed up and acted like it was no big deal that her little daughter had been missing. I couldn’t believe it!
In 1983 I was 19 and living in Ingram Tx. I worked at the HEB grocery store in nearby Kerrville. Me and my roommate had one vehicle between us and every once in a while I would have to make the couple mile walk home from work.
One day a guy in a brown Dodge or Chrystler Lebaron (I think) pulled over and asked if I wanted a ride. I said sure, but the moment I got in the car I started to feel uneasy. I could smell he had been drinking and he started to tell me how much he hated yankees (this was after I told him I was originally from Illinois). I could hear hatred in his voice. He told me he was from Colorado. He got agitated when I asked him if that didn’t make him a yankee too. I remember he had a tattoo on his forearm but I don’t recall what it was exactly.
When we got to Ingram he didn’t want me to get out of the car. He kept making excuses as to why he wasn’t taking me to where I was telling him to go. We finally pulled into a convenience store and he told me to stay in the car. He went into the shop. I jumped out of the car and ran behind a restaurant next door. I sat there shaking for about 15 minutes before I looked around the corner to see if he was still there. Sure enough, he had pulled in a parking lot across the street and was just sitting there looking around. I went back behind the restaurant and just sat there for 20 minutes before looking again to find that he had finally left.
I then started to walk home, but before doing so I picked up a large rock and made the decision that I was prepared to kill this person if he found me and made any attempt to interfere with my attempt to get home. I had never had that feeling before or since.
I’m not sure exactly how long it was after that, but one day I saw a news story about a man who had been arrested named Henry Lee Lucas. My gut sank when they showed a picture of the guy. In my mind, it WAS the guy who picked me up that day. Was my mind playing tricks on me? I don’t know. But I’ll never forget the evil feeling I got in the car, and that same feeling when I saw the news story. At the time I had no doubt it was the guy.
Similar story...walked out of a grocery store in Watertown, NY, and found two small children in one of the coin operated rides outside, no adults in sight. There was a bench nearby and I sat down to wait. It was 8 minutes before the mom emerged from the store with a couple of other unruly kids in tow.
When I pointed out the problem and how if I had been some sort of evil scumbag I could have bagged these kids up and and had several minutes head start, she was angry, and said that none of the kids obeyed her anymore since she got a divorce, they only obeyed their dad. I muttered something about keeping a better eye on them and walked away...some stupidity is just impossible to deal with.
Bravo.
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Perhaps not, but I think we can be sympathetic to a parent who is upset about possibly having their child injured or worse. It's not possible for most parents to react any other way, imho.
Regarding the leashes, I think it's not at all a bad idea. Your mother was clearly a trendsetter. My mother was as well. We had little harnesses with leashes when we went on a cruise.
“two small children...with a couple of other unruly kids in tow.” and divorced.
And people sometimes get nasty with me because I feel contraception and family planning (non-abortion) are important. Kids like these and the case commented a little above where the child was found in the parking lot and the mother didn’t seem to give a shxx often become the criminals and degenerates of the future. Some people shouldn’t have children at all, and others can only manage one or two. With an alcoholic husband, who amazingly never missed a day of work, I knew I could only manage two even though I very much wanted three.
I believe that Ottis Toole was buddies with that other murderous scum of the earth, Henry Lee Lucas.
” The self-described transvestite also claimed to be a cannibal and was the lover of infamous Texas serial killer Henry Lee Lucas.”
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