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Secret Service facing barrage of criticism after president ducked shoes
The Baltimore Sun / The Chicago Tribune ^ | December 16, 2008 | Julian E. Barnes

Posted on 12/16/2008 7:18:07 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

In movies, Secret Service agents leap in front of bullets aimed at the commander in chief. But in Baghdad, agents failed to block not one, but two shoes hurled at President George W. Bush during a weekend news conference.

So yesterday, a day after Bush dodged the flying footwear, Secret Service officials faced the inevitable questions about how an angry television reporter was able to throw two shoes before agents moved into the line of fire.

Secret Service officials said they are reviewing the incident and the procedures used by agents guarding the president during his surprise visit to Baghdad. But officials defended the agents' actions, saying that they reacted appropriately in a situation in which all of those present had undergone intensive security screenings.

They will probably make a decision to have more close-in agents, right around the president," said Ronald T. Williams, a former Secret Service agent. "They will make some adjustments, so if a shoe is thrown again, they can intercept it or at least give the president cover."

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; iraq; secretservice; shoeincident
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To: MrB

Thanks! I’m behind a firewall right now and can’t access the video sites for proper text.


21 posted on 12/16/2008 7:40:28 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Lurker
And as you said these "agents" should be chasing bad checks in Fargo ND yesterday.

Agent to wife: "Honey, remember how much you said you hated the DC August heat/humidity? I've got the fix to that..."

Actually, I thought perhaps Boise or Missoula were the more likely destinations.

22 posted on 12/16/2008 7:41:05 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: BibChr
There have been a number of incidents with the Secret Service and Bush.

Sad...he's been one of their best friends, and the entire uniformed services best friend these last eight years.

The need to get their edge back on IMHO...and I am sure the vast majority of them have it.

Anyhow...we can hope that this incident will improve things...but apart from nobody thinking of throwing shoes, it is not all that different from throwing a knife or a grenade.

Reflexes and action have to be keen. IMHO< as soon as the guy reached down he should have been under keen observation, and as soon as he came up with that shoe in hand and raised it over his head, guns should have been out and speaking.

23 posted on 12/16/2008 7:42:18 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: T-Bird45

Boise and Missoula both would be pretty nice and comfortable duty stations. Minot or Fargo...perhaps Nome, would not.


24 posted on 12/16/2008 7:43:22 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One shoe is unexpected. Who throws shoes? But the second one? I agree, the SS deserves criticism over it.


25 posted on 12/16/2008 7:43:42 AM PST by kenth (It's now spend and tax. How's that for change?)
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To: Jeff Head
The only one who came close to actually protecting the President in this was the Iraqi President who reached over to try and deflect the second shoe.

IIRC, a couple of the guys sitting around him tried to grab him, but he was able to break free.

26 posted on 12/16/2008 7:45:51 AM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: kenth

Just to add to my above comment, add to the fact that they were in Iraq. The SS should have been hyper-alert.


27 posted on 12/16/2008 7:46:30 AM PST by kenth (It's now spend and tax. How's that for change?)
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To: T-Bird45

Missoula. It’s a place. Sorta.


28 posted on 12/16/2008 7:46:31 AM PST by null and void (Hey 0bama? There will be a pop quiz every day for the next four years...miss a question, people die.)
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To: Jeff Head
They learned nothing from the Code Pink incident at Monticello this past Fourth of July when Desiree Farooz ran up and got to the side of the stage before being intercepted.

Video link.

29 posted on 12/16/2008 7:46:59 AM PST by kristinn
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To: mrclean5
"...the Secret Service thought Obama was already president..."

Well, it remains to be seen and I sincerely doubt if obamamamama will have the balls to visit a foreign country in that scenario anyway.
30 posted on 12/16/2008 7:48:12 AM PST by FrankR (“Turtle up”, economically, for the duration of the 0bamanation.)
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To: Tublecane

I agree about the reaction, but the numbskulls from the far left don’t even have the sense to understand he was in the middle of grade schoolers and for him to react otherwise, would have scared the kids half to death.

Sort of like when a baby bumps his head and then will not cry until he senses the adults running to him. If they don’t react, the baby generally will not start crying.

Just a thought, but that was my interpretation.


31 posted on 12/16/2008 7:48:16 AM PST by ssstewar
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To: Jeff Head

Or even more, every time W’s in a room with reporters, they should be on high alert. Maybe even guns drawn.

Nobody hates him worse, or wishes him more harm.


32 posted on 12/16/2008 7:49:09 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There should have been a pair of agents seated in the front row in front of the Pres, looking back at the crowd.

He was giving a speech in front of Muslims, which guaranteed there would be hostile elements.

33 posted on 12/16/2008 7:51:20 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (We used to institutionalize the insane. Now we elect them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder how much the American so called press paid this loon to throw that shoe..I just have this feeling that is what happened..As for the protesters wanting the loon released they should all be checked out to find out if they are not part of a terrorist group..If they aren’t then I say we get the heck out of Iraq and let them have it..


34 posted on 12/16/2008 7:54:33 AM PST by PLD
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To: PapaBear3625

Well! That’s terribly racist. And accurate.


35 posted on 12/16/2008 7:55:35 AM PST by null and void (Hey 0bama? There will be a pop quiz every day for the next four years...miss a question, people die.)
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To: CindyDawg
>Who would have thought about a reporter throwing shoes?

Let's all pray Helen
never gets the energy
to reach for her shoes!

36 posted on 12/16/2008 8:00:05 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

Hmmmmmm. What kind of shoes do you suppose she wears?


37 posted on 12/16/2008 8:04:57 AM PST by null and void (Hey 0bama? There will be a pop quiz every day for the next four years...miss a question, people die.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any truth to the rumor that the Detroit Lions want to sign this Iraqi guy as QB? ;~))


38 posted on 12/16/2008 8:08:12 AM PST by Ditto
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To: null and void

Islam is a race? I thought it was a misguided religion. Who knew?


39 posted on 12/16/2008 8:19:31 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah. Give me a word I can use there. It needs the same visceral response that the word ‘racist’ has.


40 posted on 12/16/2008 8:23:27 AM PST by null and void (Hey 0bama? There will be a pop quiz every day for the next four years...miss a question, people die.)
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