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Bullet Serialization Threat in Georgia
Email From National Shooting Sports Foundation ^ | 11/15/08 | unknown

Posted on 12/15/2008 9:47:06 AM PST by epow

Legislation (SB 12) that would mandate, as early as 2010, bullet serialization -- the process by which each individual round of ammunition is identified and marked with a laser-engraved serial number -- was introduced, December 11th, by Senator Ronald Ramsey, Sr. in the Georgia State Senate. The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), the trade association of the firearms and ammunition industry, has made clear that serializing ammunition on a mass production basis is not feasible from a practical standpoint and any legislation mandating such action could rightfully be considered a de facto ban on ammunition.

NSSF is encouraging all sportsmen, hunters and firearms enthusiasts to contact their state Senator and call the bill's sponsor, urging them to strongly oppose this would-be ammunition ban.

The domestic small arms ammunition industry produces between 10 and 12 billion ammunition cartridges a year at already low-profit margins. The three largest domestic manufacturers (who collectively account for the vast majority of the market) produce an estimated 20 million rounds of ammunition in a single day. Ammunition manufacturers could not serialize their product without hundreds of millions of dollars in capital investment to build the new factories that would be needed in order to meet the requirements of bullet serialization. The slowdown in the production process would result in what currently takes one day to produce into a nearly four-week effort.

Bullet Serialization is dangerous and not practical. This legislation which would mandate bullet serialization not only threatens law-abiding gun-owners but manufacturers' ability to supply the nation's law enforcement officers and military with high-quality ammunition.

Please call your state senator today and let them know that legislation mandating bullet serialization and also the destruction of previously owned non-coded ammunition will not improve public safety but rather put law-abiding citizens at risk.

Learn more about serialization at http://nssf.org/media/FactSheets/Microstamping.cfm


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; ammocoding; ammunition; banglist; call; microstamping; senator; toddlizotte
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To: epow
HERE is the official Ramsey bio, a typical ultra-liberal Democrat representing a metro Atlanta district where crime is high and where many of the crime weary residents have the totally mistaken idea that more gun control is the answer. If you're a GA voter let your state Senator and Assemblyman know what you want done in re this proposed bill.
21 posted on 12/15/2008 10:10:01 AM PST by epow (Somewhere in Kenya a village is feeling proud of one of it's native-born sons.)
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To: epow

A ban on ammo is essentially a ban on the right to bear firearms.

If we can’t load them then they just become clubs and projectiles.


22 posted on 12/15/2008 10:10:37 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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To: domenad
Can someone more knowledgeable about gun law explain why this is a problem? Is it too expensive, or so infeasible as to ban many weapons? I’m a firm believer in the 2nd amendment. I’m also a firm believer in giving law enforcement the tools it needs to fight crime.

This is all because some wacko in Seattle Washington has a patent on the process. He invested 200,000 in this. He has the patent not the applied technology. He can't sell it any way except to make this required by the govt.

It sounds very good on the surface, but once you dig deeper it is BS. This is just another backdoor way around the Constitution.

If you want to give law enforcement the tools, look at consequences, not intent.

23 posted on 12/15/2008 10:14:34 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: domenad

Expensive, in the first place. Many of us also make our own bullets and reload cases. This would become next to impossible if not illegal.


24 posted on 12/15/2008 10:14:51 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: DBrow
Get caught with an unserialized projectile, go to jail.

Then let the revolution begin.

25 posted on 12/15/2008 10:16:12 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

When junk like this gets passed (I know it hasn’t passed and probably wont for now) but when it does, we need governors and other politicians to say, “The legislator is our of hand, the people of _____ should in no way attempt to keep this ‘Law’”.

Of course, he could just veto the bill and save his words. How do I say this? I trying to say that local conservative leaders should fight harder for the constitutional rights of it’s constituents to the point of advocating disobedience to tyranny.


26 posted on 12/15/2008 10:19:26 AM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: epow

How will they put serial numbers on my 20 gauge bird and buck shot?


27 posted on 12/15/2008 10:22:50 AM PST by Pfesser
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To: Myrddin

I think we’ll see ammo-swaps. Put a thousand rounds into the bucket and pull out a random 1000 rounds. Somebody will come up with a machine to do the counting for you, just like those change machines at the grocery stores.


28 posted on 12/15/2008 10:26:09 AM PST by gitmo (I am the latte-sipping, NYT-reading, Volvo-driving, no-gun-owning, effete, PC, arrogant liberal. -BO)
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To: domenad

you for real?


29 posted on 12/15/2008 10:31:25 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: t1b8zs

They try that and all hell is going to break loose.


30 posted on 12/15/2008 10:36:39 AM PST by KellyM37
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

How is serializing going to actually work since bullets tend to fragment when they enter a body ... ?


31 posted on 12/15/2008 10:38:54 AM PST by Jackson57
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To: Myrddin

A company called "Ammunition Accountability" is pushing a law in multiple states to force the adoption of their ammunition labeling technology.


The "company" needs to be put out of business.

32 posted on 12/15/2008 10:40:25 AM PST by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: gitmo

Excellent idea. Or, if they serialize the rounds, I plan to buy a lot, wait an hour and then call the police to report them stolen.


33 posted on 12/15/2008 10:41:39 AM PST by PrairieRoot (Here's hoping Global Warning extends the hunting and logging seasons.)
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To: Jackson57

It isn’t intended to solve crime, it is intended to chip away at gun rights. There may be some well intentioned fools involved, but the forces really behind gun control actually encourage crime, it empowers them.


34 posted on 12/15/2008 10:43:32 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: domenad
I’m also a firm believer in giving law enforcement the tools it needs to fight crime.

And I'm a firmer believer in securing people from unreasonable search and seizure, which serialization of ammunition is. The last clause of the 2nd Amendment is 'shall not be infringed'. What exactly do you think 'infringed' means?
35 posted on 12/15/2008 10:44:23 AM PST by JamesP81 (I shall give their President the same respect they gave mine.)
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To: epow

They’ll get my unmarked ammunition back the hard way...


36 posted on 12/15/2008 10:45:52 AM PST by Edgerunner (Second Amendment Spoken Here)
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To: Edgerunner
They’ll get my unmarked ammunition back the hard way...

Molon Labe. This is one law that a freedom loving citizen is under no obligation to obey.
37 posted on 12/15/2008 10:51:14 AM PST by JamesP81 (I shall give their President the same respect they gave mine.)
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To: stevio
Is it too expensive, or so infeasible as to ban many weapons?

In a word, "yea".

If I may add my 02 cents. One of the primary reasons for amendment 2 was that the citizens may, some day, need to protect themselves from out of control government. Serialization of bullets would aid an out-of-control government to track down the patriots and quicly stamp out dissent.

38 posted on 12/15/2008 10:56:22 AM PST by suijuris
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To: suijuris

I don’t disagree they have that in the back of their collective minds. In the meantime, it’s a major, costly, PITA!


39 posted on 12/15/2008 11:02:51 AM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: hoosierham; domenad
Please don't tell me "if you are doing nothing wrong,it won't matter";you do realize there are so many laws and regulations that it is already humanly impossible to be in complete compliance?

This is a very good point. Also consider 'doing nothing wrong' very much depends on who's defining 'wrong'. As an example, saying something against homosexuality, biblicly based or not, may criminally 'wrong' as it is in Canada.

40 posted on 12/15/2008 11:02:51 AM PST by tbpiper (Now irate and tireless, but mostly irate.)
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