As someone else pointed out there are only two religious symbols. The other one is a secular symbol.
Christianity gets left out again.
Posted on 12/14/2008 9:42:00 AM PST by prismsinc
'Spirit of inclusion': 'Jesus Christ himself would have gathered everyone around him'
The decision by a New York village to place the Islamic star and crescent alongside the community's official Christmas tree has a Catholic leader wondering if there are any wise men among the town's leaders.
Supervisors for Armonk, N.Y. voted to display a menorah and a star and crescent at tonight's Christmas tree lighting ceremony at the town's gazebo.
"We've decided to go in the direction of being all-inclusive," Supervisor Reese Berman told Associated Press.
The village had added the menorah previously. Last year, town resident Asad Jilani, saying the Christmas season is an appropriate time to celebrate all cultures, asked the board to include Islamic symbols as well.
"I said 'Oh, there's a menorah and a Christmas tree and where is my crescent?'" said Jilani.
Berman, who is Jewish, said the town did not have time to adequately address Jilani's request last year and, to not make Muslims feel they were being specifically excluded, the menorah was removed to a local synagogue.
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When the Islamics start publicly celebrating Ramadan in this country or any country, let’s see how amenable they are to sharing it with Christians and Jews.
As someone else pointed out there are only two religious symbols. The other one is a secular symbol.
Christianity gets left out again.
They just want to detract from the joy of Christmas.
All of the anti-Christians and Christophobes figure: “Just throw about a hundred religious symbols up every time the Christians do and eventually we'll marginalize Christian influence.”
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...."
Where, in the U.S. Constitution, is there any mention of "Christian" or "Protestant" or "Catholic" or "Jewish" or "Muslim" or "Hindu"?
At the time of the ratification of the First Amendment, only Protestants could hold certain offices in Great Britain and the First Amendment was written in order to abolish that religious favoritism and make the U.S. Government treat ALL religions EQUALLY without either favor or prejudice.
Secularists, for many years, have taken the stand that the Free Exercise Clause should be ignored so that ALL religious symbols could be banned from public property.
Now, some Christians want to take the stand that the Free Exercise Clause should be ignored just as long as the religious symbols that is being banned from public property is not a Christian symbol.
In a Constitutional Republic, the Constitution should say what it means and mean what it says.
If a Muslim citizen requests that the Free Exercise Clause be respected, then that is what the Constitution requires. Period.
Once you start putting words and meanings into the Constitution that are not there, some day, you might have some nut claiming that something called a "penumbra" gives all American woman the Constitutional right to suck the brains out their unborn children.
Thank God that He is not inclusive!
Where is the Obama poster?
To Teach to them the Truth NOT to raise any of their erroneous belief to a par with God's truth.
I really am amazed by the degree to which Jesus, He of ONE Implacable, Immutable Truth is depicted as a mush headed Kumbya singing moron. Read the parts of the Bible written in red ink. There isn't a lot of wiggle room or ambiguity in those words.
And what is this I hear about excluding Jivaro cannibal headhunters from the festivities? We need a Headhunting cannibal awareness MONTH!!!!
I want to see some Druids painted blue and dancing naked under the Holiday Tree!
At least it would be entertaining...
Who said anything about laws? I’m not saying a law should be written for or against placing an Islamic symbol by any organization. It’s a matter of choice. I’m a Libertarian at heart anyways, so you’re barking up the wrong tree.
You are simply anti-Christian if you fear my desire to write a law against non-Christians. I never made any such inference.
As for your position on the issue, you are ignoring the fact that Islam forbids a Government that doesn’t submit to Allah’s laws and the writings of the Koran. Also, there are no Islamic holidays this time of year. So what point are these demagogues trying to make when they place Islamic symbols over a Christmas tree? “Submit to Allah Christians” is what I take from it.
You also don’t mention that separation of Church and State was a Christ concept first. Christ believed that man’s Government influence on the Church was damaging to the Church. The U.S. Constitution and Christianity work in harmony because they do not encroach each other. The same cannot be said for the Koran with any Government except Islamic ones.
You want to believe history only began 250 years ago? Be my guest. Muslims tyrannically ruled the earth up until about 600-700 years ago, when Christian nations began to free humanity from the bonds of muslim slavery. It seems to me you’re all to willing to give Islam the opportunity to reign the earth once again.
It’s interesting that at least a few Muslims are interested in assimilating around xmas. A second “Santa’s Slay” movie should be made to include Muslims, IMO. :-)
A very astute observation, I might add.
So why in the world, are other religions or quasi-religions (yes, athesiem is a religion) allowed voice during the christmas season, when they have absolutely no relevant, corresponding holiday?
To use reverse psychology, should Christians now legally insist on being represented at every religions’ holidays? Should christians erect a christmas tree or nativity display at Mecca? or set up a cross next to any athiest display any time of year? Sounds silly, doesn't it? about as silly as hijacking Christmas by putting a star and cresent symbol or athiests' 'no god' statement next to the nativity scene
imo, there is a marked difference between attacking one religion (christianity) and ‘freedom of religion’
best regards, blu
Hmmmm ..?? I wonder what the response would be if Christians put a Baby Jesus on display during Ramadan .. or how about a Jewish Menorah on display too - what about THAT inclusiveness. You’re right .. IT WOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED.
I’m sick and tired of these “inclusive” people - Christmas is the celebration of CHRIST’s birth - NOT MOHAMMED - if you don’t believe in CHRIST - FINE WITH ME - but stop shoving other religions down my throat.
On an outhouse door somewhere in the Smokies where it belongs.
Ummmm .... The law was written.
In case you missed it, it is called the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America and it was ratified in 1791.
"Choice" has nothing to do with it any more than you can, as a Libertarian, "choose" which races will be allowed to vote in your town or "choose" which religions will be required to be allowed to run for Mayor in your town.
The First Amendment has a Free Excersise Clause that allows EQUAL access to the public space for ALL religions. A Muslim man specifically asked for equal access for his religious symbol and it was granted in accordance with the Constitution. End of discussion.
Your "choices" and your "Libertarian" self label are totally irrelevant to the issue. We, supposedly, are a land of the Rule of Constitutional Law and not a land of the Rule of Choice by the Majority.
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