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Armor: It's Alive! (CROWS, remotely operated turrets -- the enemy hates them)
Strategy Page ^ | 12/11/08

Posted on 12/13/2008 7:37:11 PM PST by LibWhacker

December 11, 2008: The remote control turret changed the battlefield more than you might think. It all began three years ago, when the U.S. Army realized that new remote control gun turret designs actually worked, and suddenly they could not get enough of them. The army ordered over 9,000 CROWS (common remotely operated weapon stations), but for a while could only get 15 a month. By the end of 2006, there were about a thousand CROWS in service by the end of the year.

The main issue was that the enemy was no longer able to knock out the turret gunner, early in a firefight, and take away a lot of the vehicles firepower. Because of that, once the enemy opens fire, they are in trouble. The remote turret tends to begin delivering accurate fire right away, and is much more immune to enemy fire than a human gunner. If the vehicle is a Stryker, the enemy will soon find themselves dealing with half a dozen or so heavily armed infantry, who get out of the vehicle and come at the ambushers. Iraqis don't like that. They also don't like how some of the CROWS turret equipped vehicles will come after them. All those accurately aimed bullets coming their way, and no enemy soldiers in sight, is demoralizing.

The idea for CROWS has been around for nearly half a century. Years of tinkering, and better technology, eventually made the remote control gun turret effective and dependable. CROWS is a real lifesaver, not to mention anxiety reducer, for troops who drive through bandit country a lot, and have a turret mounted gun (usually in a hummer). The guy manning the turret mounted machine-gun is a target up there, and too often, the bad guys get you. Not with CROWS. The gunner is inside the vehicle, checking out the surroundings on a computer monitor (with night vision and telephoto capabilities). CROWS also has a laser rangefinder built in, as well as a stabilizer mechanism to allow more accurate fire while the vehicle is moving. The CROWS systems cost about $260,000 each, and can mount a variety of weapons (M2 .50 caliber machine-gun, MK19 40-mm automatic grenade launcher, M240B 7.62mm machine-gun and M249 5.56mm squad automatic weapon).

The accuracy of the fire, and uncanny speed with which the CROWS gun moves so quickly and deliberately, is due to something few officers expected. The guys operating these systems grew up playing video games. They developed skills in operating systems (video games) very similar to the CROWS controls. This was important, because viewing the world around the vehicle via a vidcam is not as enlightening (although a lot safer) than having your head and chest exposed to the elements, and any firepower the enemy sends your way. But experienced video gamers are skilled at whipping that screen view around, and picking up any signs of danger. Iraqis are amazed at how observant CROWS is. Iraqis tend to just wrote this off as another example of American "magic."

Many Iraqis, especially the bad guys, get distressed while watching a CROWS turret being exercised by some video game addict inside the vehicle. That's because the most noticeable part of CROWS, as it swivels and "looks" around, is the machine-gun. Many Iraqis don't even recognize the vidcam and other sensors. They think the machine-gun is, well, sort of R2D2 with a bad attitude and a license to kill.

Meanwhile, inside vehicles like the Stryker, the troops do feel like they are in another world. The Stryker is air conditioned, well equipped with electronics (including a sound system you can plug an iPod into) and a lot nicer than the nastiness outside.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Technical; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: americanmagic; armor; banglist; crows; iraq; mohammedanism; remote; turrets
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1 posted on 12/13/2008 7:37:12 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
Cool!

I want and need at least one.

2 posted on 12/13/2008 7:39:27 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: LibWhacker

Nothing like having 15 years experience with a wide variety of digital input and output devices to make you a good shot.


3 posted on 12/13/2008 7:40:29 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: elkfersupper; muawiyah

“American magic”... I absolutely LOVE that!


4 posted on 12/13/2008 7:42:28 PM PST by LibWhacker
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5 posted on 12/13/2008 7:45:13 PM PST by alancarp
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To: elkfersupper

I want one too.


6 posted on 12/13/2008 7:45:20 PM PST by LauraJean (sometimes I win sometimes I donate to the equine benevolent society)
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To: LibWhacker

7 posted on 12/13/2008 7:45:51 PM PST by icwhatudo
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To: LibWhacker

Ali Baba is toast..


8 posted on 12/13/2008 7:46:48 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: LibWhacker
Cool! But...TTIUWP


9 posted on 12/13/2008 7:47:04 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: icwhatudo

I especially like the way the foreground HMMWV is dedicated to the First Lady In Waiting! How thoughtful of the guys.


10 posted on 12/13/2008 7:48:53 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: LauraJean

Make me the third to request one from Santa for Christmas.
I’ve been a good boy (sort of) during 2007!
Please Santa, Please!


11 posted on 12/13/2008 7:50:09 PM PST by TaMoDee
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To: LibWhacker
Outsourcing of a gunner - the union will never allow it???
12 posted on 12/13/2008 7:52:10 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: LibWhacker

Lots of crows at FR this evening ......:o)

All good , just more comments here.


13 posted on 12/13/2008 7:55:55 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Raffus

Hey, Raffus, you guys have anything to do with this?
Looks kewl!


14 posted on 12/13/2008 7:56:06 PM PST by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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To: LibWhacker

oooops here !

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2148340/posts


15 posted on 12/13/2008 7:56:21 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: TaMoDee

Make me the third to request one from Santa for Christmas.
I’ve been a good boy (sort of) during 2007!
Please Santa, Please!
Sorry TaMoDee, but Santa is all about the present and it's what you did in 2008, not 2007, that counts.

16 posted on 12/13/2008 7:58:22 PM PST by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: BloodOrFreedom

You’ll like this story.

The fourth paragraph is golden. Love the video game tie-in:makes a lot of sense.

Amazingly enough, the B-29 in 1944 had remotely operated machine gun turrets. B-17 and B-24 crews had exposed gunners or had their positions easily identified and were targeted by enemy fighters.

Similarly the exposed gunner atop the HumVee is targeted by the jihadis first.


17 posted on 12/13/2008 7:59:29 PM PST by exit82 (It's all Obama's fault. And Biden is still a moron. They are both above their paygrade.)
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To: LibWhacker

I saw stuff, In my Op Yuy Sux, FU. and have a nice day. bye.


18 posted on 12/13/2008 8:00:17 PM PST by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Michelle is Sgt. Smith’s wife. And she is the REAL lady in waiting.


19 posted on 12/13/2008 8:03:15 PM PST by Ben Reyes (Palin 2012)
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To: LauraJean

I want one of these to mount to the roof of my Buick for the next time I must make a trip into Dayton.


20 posted on 12/13/2008 8:03:15 PM PST by benasawin
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