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Listen and Learn-Your Survival Depends On It(O citizenship/Blago/natl civilian security force mess
Topix ^ | December 12, 2008 | Devvy Kidd

Posted on 12/13/2008 1:51:27 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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Wow! There's a lot there to digest.
1 posted on 12/13/2008 1:51:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

HERE’S SOME NEW INSIGHT FOLKS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2jBTljxuTA

Fast forward to 3:20...

Listen at 3:36... Obama stumbles when he says “... I had no contact with the Governor or his office, Ah, and so we were not— I was not — aware of what was happening”

Note how he realized he could NOT say “We were not...” because he KNOWS RAHM EMANUEL WAS AWARE because Rahm Emanuel was playing Blagojevich’s corrupt game — and probably with Obama’s approval.

It seems so apparent by his guilty slip of the tongue that Obama is involved in the “Pay for Play” for his senate seat. He knew!!

Rahm Emanuel will end up in Jail and lie to protect Oscammus. He’ll be the Patsy for his good crony, Obama.

You heard it here first...


2 posted on 12/13/2008 2:00:30 PM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: LucyT

Of possible interest to your list.


3 posted on 12/13/2008 2:01:21 PM PST by Slings and Arrows ("If one cannot learn from the mistakes of others, one might as well become a Democrat."--E. Friesner)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama's call for a national civilian security force: “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.”

I've been saying this since 0bama first spoke of his civilian force that will equal our military: WAKE UP, PEOPLE! This is Hitler's SA and SS, brought to your neighborhood, but an unqualified "President-Elect", a turd that rose to the top of the cesspool that is Chicago politics.

Buy guns and ammo while you still can. This is your last chance if the Socialist Democrats have their way.

4 posted on 12/13/2008 2:06:19 PM PST by cayuga (Obama's preparing to "rule"? Charles I (1649), Louis XVI (1793) and Maximillian I (1867) were rulers)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Background:
John Jay (December 12, 1745 – May 17, 1829), American revolutionary, and the first Chief Justice of the United States
was so concerned about "natural born" being a PREREQUISITE to being POTUS, that he wrote to
Gen. Washington and underlined this in his letter (see below).



"[T]he people are the sovereign of this country, and consequently that
fellow citizens and joint sovereigns cannot be degraded by appearing
with each other in their own courts to have their controversies determined.
The people have reason to prize and rejoice in such valuable privileges,
and they ought not to forget that nothing but the free course
of constitutional law and government can ensure the continuance
and enjoyment of them.
"
[John Jay, Chisholm v. Georgia]

Today, SCOTUS 2008 so far regards John Jay and the American public as 'de minimus'.
Apparently at least six of the lied when they swore that they would protect and defend the Constitution.


5 posted on 12/13/2008 2:07:25 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: AlanGreenSpam
When he stumbles he is lying. Noticed that a long time ago. Would love to get him in a poker game. Worst tell I seen in years.
6 posted on 12/13/2008 2:14:32 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bump to myself for later. Thanks for the post.


7 posted on 12/13/2008 2:18:59 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: AlanGreenSpam
Rahm Emanuel will end up in Jail and lie to protect Oscammus. He’ll be the Patsy for his good crony, Obama.

I agree that Emanuel was probably doing Obama's bidding but I don't think he'd be willing to take a fall for the guy. Who did he support in the primaries?

8 posted on 12/13/2008 2:25:23 PM PST by jersey117
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"If Obama is ineligible, which I believe he is and he certainly knew when he ran, then his entire campaign was a fraud. Because it was fraud perpetrated upon the American people, Obama's selection of a VP candidate would be meaningless as it was an element of the fraud."

Not accurate. Unless it can be proved that Biden was part of the plot to defraud the people, his selection by the Electors will stand. The COTUS indicates distinct and separate processes for choosing the President and Vice President. There is no explicit process for qualifying a President, and the 20th Amendment, in Section 3, only indicates what should occur if "the President elect shall have failed to qualify," implying that the qualification process is supposed to happen between the counting of the Electoral Votes and the Inauguration. Who is to do this is not specified, but logically, in order for there to be no qualified President elect, such qualification could occur no earlier than the counting. I think that the members of Congress present for the counting have an obligation to challenge any Electoral Votes for a candidate not proved to be qualified at that time or if there is evidence of fraud, but as I said, there is no process spelled out in the COTUS. Such challenges have been made - in 2005, in 1877, and further back.

9 posted on 12/13/2008 2:27:44 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

[While you’re listening to this information, you will be reminded of Obama’s call for a national civilian security force:

http://www.nationalciviliansecurityforce.com


10 posted on 12/13/2008 2:43:27 PM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: calenel

“I think that the members of Congress present for the counting have an obligation to challenge any Electoral Votes for a candidate not proved to be qualified at that time or if there is evidence of fraud...”

Bingo. See 3 USC 15 for statutory authority.
The obligation and duty to challenge arises from the oath of office.

“The Marxists and Capitalists are struggling in a non-violent civil war for the government of our nation, but only the Marxists seem to know that”
- frog in pot


11 posted on 12/13/2008 2:55:28 PM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: FastCoyote

It just occurred to me, if Blagojevich has a get-out-of-jail card it would be that he must know whether there were efforts to paper over Obama’s citizenship.


12 posted on 12/13/2008 3:03:53 PM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: FastCoyote

bttt


13 posted on 12/13/2008 4:03:14 PM PST by Guenevere
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How soon we forget the Doors and Windows company Union holding hostage entire industry so as to fund a bail out of Union and other terror army assortments in the US.

Obama is full of crap. He was right there with Blago a couple weeks ago asking for funding this non productive political/parapolice/paramilitary Union organ.

His funded Soviet army is already existing. All he wants now is an excuse to defund the US military.


14 posted on 12/13/2008 4:12:48 PM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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I guess you didn’t hear. The owner of this company moved his operation to Iowa. Thus stiffing his workers;they didn’t even get a paycheck. He was not bankrupt. He chose not to pay them. BOA stepped in and will go after this guy-BOA is tough. He will get his.


15 posted on 12/13/2008 4:38:37 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: mad_as_he$$
When he stumbles he is lying. ...Worst tell I seen in years.Was living with white people too long.
16 posted on 12/13/2008 5:02:10 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (What's Obama's Secret?)
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To: cayuga

I agree.


17 posted on 12/13/2008 5:52:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: bronxboy

The workers were human shields for the Unions who Obama really wanted to benefit.

What is wrong with Iowa? Sheesh, Chicago is Pakistan.


18 posted on 12/13/2008 5:56:51 PM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thanks, 2ndDivision, for all the wonderful, well researched, info. Having once been a research librarian, I know exactly how much work you put into it. Thanks again!
19 posted on 12/13/2008 7:43:35 PM PST by singfreedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Save for later


20 posted on 12/13/2008 11:07:26 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Liberalism appeals to individuals who are emotionally based.)
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