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Obama deemed qualified by birth for presidency
RenewAmerica ^ | December 11, 2008 | By Wes Vernon

Posted on 12/13/2008 3:20:49 AM PST by GonzoII

Barack Obama's upcoming presidency gives many reasons for conservatives to be concerned. All the more reason that we stick to substantive provable issues, as opposed to chasing such illusive rainbows as his alleged lack of a birth certificate. Such preoccupation adds to the bad name already accorded legitimate "conspiracy theories."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; devoidoffacts; editorial; election08; obama; senile; speculation
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To: TXnMA; justiceseeker93

Interesting info.

Someday we will know the truth about Vince Foster’s demise.


61 posted on 12/13/2008 9:15:10 AM PST by exit82 (It's all Obama's fault. And Biden is still a moron. They are both above their paygrade.)
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To: Drew68
You are right about one thing. This is a 'non-issue' and outside of a few internet forums has commanded the attention of nobody.

LOL. You must be a nobody, then, Drew68. It's certainly commanded your attention.

62 posted on 12/13/2008 9:31:10 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Repeal The 17th

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,

or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

or abridging the freedom of speech,

or of the press;

or the right of the people peaceably to assemble,

and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Yes, get ready. It's coming...


63 posted on 12/13/2008 9:40:32 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: TXnMA; exit82; Yaelle; Cicero; LucyT; potlatch; PhilDragoo
Ligitimate conspiracy theory: the 38-cal gunshot wound to Foster's brain via the roof of Foster's mouth was administered post mortem ...

Conspiracy theory much more consistent with the totality of the evidence: There was no mouth to brain bullet wound at all! (That was a feeble creation of the autopsy pathologist as a support for the bogus "suicide" conclusion.) The only wound was a lethal neck wound administered at close range from a small caliber weapon.

64 posted on 12/13/2008 9:51:28 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93; org.whodat
"The only wound was a lethal neck wound administered at close range from a small caliber weapon."

Quite possibly so. Nevertheless, the "official story" remains "Suicide via .38 caliber mouth-to-brain gunshot -- at the site in Ft. Marcy park"

Post mortem -- or nonexistent -- .38 gunshot wound, the fact remains that the official explanation is a clear conspiracy to obstruct justice.

And that is a "legitimate conspiracy theory"...

65 posted on 12/13/2008 10:16:26 AM PST by TXnMA (Chief Justice: "To administer this oath would violate my oath to uphold the Constitution.")
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To: TXnMA; exit82

One can’t really separate this into two different conspiracies, the homicide and the cover-up, since they were both essentially a part of a single plan, and some of the same individuals participated in both.


66 posted on 12/13/2008 11:22:25 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: GonzoII; stockpirate; theothercheek
Wes Vernon styles himself as a conservative. Yet his credentials are dubious, having been in the employ of CBS for years.

In this piece he rides on the coattails of no less an "authority" than John Fund, head honcho of the Wall Street Journal's amnesty-for-illegal immigrants editorial staff. In addition, he swallows the false Obama lackey lines that the COLB is proof of O's Hawaiian birth, that the Hawaii health czarina said the O was born there, and that it would be impossible for a birth announcement to appear in a Hawaiian newspaper if he were born in Kenya.

Wes Vernon is either a just a plain fool or a useful idiot for the Obama camp, which wishes to shove the question of natural born citizenship under the rug.

67 posted on 12/13/2008 1:01:38 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

The cover-up is a wider conspiracy than the homicide — it includes (for instance) the coroner, etc. I don’t believe they had all those folks on board before the homicide...


68 posted on 12/13/2008 2:45:55 PM PST by TXnMA (Chief Justice: "To administer this oath would violate my oath to uphold the Constitution.")
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To: TXnMA; exit82; Yaelle; LucyT; Fedora; Cicero
I don't believe they had all those folks on board before the homicide.

I never claimed that they did have all on board before the homicide. But the mere dumping of the body in the remote park with a gun near his hand (the first stage of the cover-up), as well as other events, speaks volumes for the impression that the cover-up - or at least the general outline of it - was pre-planned. You can bet that the specific spot in FMP was not chosen at random or in desperation.

69 posted on 12/13/2008 5:21:08 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Conspiracy is right. X-rays don’t disappear out of police and military locked safes without a good deal of complicity at high levels.

And the same thing happened to the x-rays showing the bullet hole in the top of Ron Brown’s skull. Only it just happened that one of the military forensic experts had made a copy of the disappeared original, which he was using on the lecture circuit—and which was later posted on-line.

A ruler was included in the photo, so you could see that the round hole in his skull was just a little under half an inch—i.e., 45 caliber.


70 posted on 12/13/2008 5:43:17 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

You’re exactly right. Anything the rats don’t want out they call a conspiracy and later on the truth comes out.


71 posted on 12/13/2008 5:54:20 PM PST by Cowgirl
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To: justiceseeker93

You’re right. Even back in Arkansas, few things associated with the Clintons were done without careful planning — except for Bill’s “zipper malfunctions”...


72 posted on 12/13/2008 6:38:54 PM PST by TXnMA (Chief Justice: "To administer this oath would violate my oath to uphold the Constitution.")
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To: Drew68
Why do people say, this is about keeping Obama out of White House; when if he gave permission for Hawaii Authorities to release his BC; there would be NO issue (despite your analysis); and certainly NO keeping him out of White House either.

This is a 'straw' argument. It does make sense; to those who care about America's Constitution to want to know the truth of Obama's legitimacy. . .and given the 'vetting' Obama NEVER received; and his refusal to be forthcoming; it should raise the interest of every voting citizen who cares that America's President be legitimate. Might save on 'pay to play' schemes that come down the line; and might circumvent any bribes from our enemies who might have a different story about Obama's birth history, which now, thanks to Obama himself; can be seen as no more than the mysterious 'birth of Obama'.

An odd choice of response for a man who has, from the beginning; promised 'transparency' while he is in office; and instead; we get obfuscation; and we are offered essentially, a brick wall for concerned citizens to bang their head against.

73 posted on 12/13/2008 8:08:21 PM PST by cricket (America's Freedom Rings! Thank You ~ U..S.A. Military~/)
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To: TXnMA; ExTexasRedhead; Cicero; LucyT; theothercheek
Even back in Arkansas, few things associated with the Clintons were done without careful planning - except for Bill's "zipper malfunctions"...

ROFL!!!

74 posted on 12/13/2008 8:42:11 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: NavVet
And yet, nobody is asking why Obama is going to such lengths to resist the production of his birth certificate? If this is a case of tilting at windmills, then just authorize the release of the birth certificate and be done with it.

Good post.

This is where logic has completely failed morons like Vernon, Medved, and other cowards of the alleged "right wing" pundit class. When it comes to Zero's eligibility question, they have an answer to everything except this great big "elephant in the living room" question - - if Zero is a native born American, then why has he mounted an expensive tooth-and-nail fight to prevent release of anything that would prove his eligibility?

The cowards have no answer. They prefer to walk away and sneer, "tin-foil conspiracy" over their shoulders.

75 posted on 12/13/2008 8:51:31 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: justiceseeker93
Wes Vernon styles himself as a conservative. Yet his credentials are dubious, having been in the employ of CBS for years.

Yep, red flags all over the place with that association.
On the other hand Bernie Goldberg, though probably not a conservative, is a true journalist in every sense of the word; honest and thoroughly objective. ...Which is why CBS and others in the "mainstream" Democrat newsrooms despise him.

76 posted on 12/13/2008 8:58:07 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: jerod
“Obama, a man who is completely unqualified by just about every measure there is to be President, is fully qualified by birth - period.” You can't prove it. He can. But he won't provide the documents which could do so. I say he cannot prove he is eligible according tot he Constitutional requirements. Shill for the affirmative action fraud somewhere else. Your genuflection is disgusting
77 posted on 12/13/2008 8:58:07 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Actually, BArack Obama, aka Barry Soetoro is not a black prresident, even in waiting. But the fifth column enmedia want to foist that crap on black people to control them.

Let's see what Obama is for black people:

He is a manipulative affirmative action product
He has a blank history which black children therefore cannot emulate
He claims to be born in HI thus the thrill of the Kenyans to have a Kenyan in the WH is a fraud
He is descended from slave traders and slave users
He is born from a white woman's womb

This guy, this not actually black guy is an affirmative action fraud that the DNC wanted as a way to rid themselves of the filthy clintons, but he is more of a crook than they so he has turned their criminal enterprise over on them and taken control.

78 posted on 12/13/2008 9:06:16 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: NavVet
The issue is now far larger than merely proving he was born in Hawaii. First, his father's British citizenship disqualifies him as a natural born citizen since his paternal parent is a foreign national. Second, Barry had his citizenship negated as a child in Indonesia and may not have reacquired American citizenship. AND Third, Barry Soetoro may have used other citizenship to empower hismelf in affirmativea ction fashion, for college entry, college funding, and possibly a passport from Kenya or Indonesia.

Consider the following and how it would utterly cancdel any argument he has made regarding dropping his Kenayan citizenship (which he admits he held as a child): if Obama applied for and receiveda passport or any other affrirmative action 'assistance' using Kenayn citizenship, he has not only lied he has shown divided loyalties just like the Constitutional eligibility requirement sought to avoid.

The hidden documents from his life are now vital to prove he is legitimate.

79 posted on 12/13/2008 9:13:52 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
He is born from a white woman's womb

You know if your going to continualy post this nut case statement at least give the credit to the originator of the nut case statement , The Nut case "Rev Manning" . Nut case

80 posted on 12/13/2008 9:25:35 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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